Trump and the Park 5 the truth

[cancel2 2022]

Clinton? No .. He and Trump are NOTHING alike.

Clinton is well educated and an excellent speaker and has some ideals. He was also charming.. He was flawed certainly, but nothing like Trump who calls women dogs and pigs and talks about grabbing them by their genitals.

BJ liked to screw young teens on the Lolita Express, get BJs from Monica Lewinsky, is that what you are referring to, or something else? Kennedy liked to screw secretaries in the White House swimming pool and Johnson liked to pull his johnson out to show reporters, all classy stuff!

 

[christiefan915]

Remember Ricky Ray Rector? He was the poor SOB with an IQ of about 70, who was put to death by the State of Arkansas in 1992. Governor Bill Clinton flew home off the campaign trail to supervise the state’s murder, so that he could show the voting public that he was just as capable of ruthless ugliness in the name of serving his own interests as any Republican ever was. Americans like that in a president. We like our president to be just like us – not some elite snob with that whole ethics thing going on, or all that other effete East Coast superiority shit (see, for example: “Bush, George W.”). Anyway, poor Ricky Ray was so out of it that, just before they fried him, he asked the prison guards if they would save the pecan pie from his last meal so that he could have it “later”. Didn’t matter to Wild Bill. He made a public spectacle of flipping the switch on a guy who didn’t have a clue of what was about to hit him. (And why not, either? So some dummy on death row had to die for him to get to the White House – so what? What’s wrong with that?

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2010/10/16/ricky-ray-rector-president

I didn't know this about Rector and as you know I'm totally against the death penalty. Our governor put a moratorium on it and repubs were so freaked out they took it to the state Supreme Court... and lost.

Bill Clinton had four executions during his term as governor and repubs are criticizing him 25 years later. Yet Rick Perry (R-Tex) had overseen approx. 250 executions including that of intellectually-disabled convict Marvin Wilson, whose IQ was 61.

This is just the usual Clinton bashing and double standards.

 

[Nordberg]

Didn't BJ Clinton when he was governor of Arkansas, oversee the execution of Ricky Ray Rector, a man so mentally disabled that he said he would save the pecan pie from his last meal for later?

Start a thread on that if you feel like it. This isn't that one. Bush was gov. Texas. Want to talk about their executions under him and ho many mentally impaired people he allowed killed?

 

[cancel2 2022]

I didn't know this about Rector and as you know I'm totally against the death penalty. Our governor put a moratorium on it and repubs were so freaked out they took it to the state Supreme Court... and lost.

Bill Clinton had four executions during his term as governor and repubs are criticizing him 25 years later. Yet Rick Perry (R-Tex) had overseen approx. 250 executions including that of intellectually-disabled convict Marvin Wilson, whose IQ was 61.

This is just the usual Clinton bashing and double standards.

Hardly bashing, Clinton liked to think he was morally superior to the likes of Bush, but when it came down to it he was just as ruthless.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Media Wrongly Claim Trump Ad Pushed to Execute 'Innocent Children'

Since Donald Trump began his run for President in June 2015, parts of the dominant liberal media have repeatedly parroted the incorrect claim that, in 1989, Trump ran a newspaper ad in which he urged the execution of a group of young black and Hispanic teens who ended up eventually being proven "innocent" in spite of confessing to the infamous rape and beating of a Central Park jogger that year.

In fact, the ad in question did not specify that the Central Park Five should be executed as it came at a time when the death penalty was illegal in New York. There had been a push for the state legislature to enact a new law to reinstate capital punishment which would require overriding the veto of then-Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo -- who had vetoed a death penalty bill a month before the attack.

The defendants could not have been sentenced to capital punishment since it was not an option at the time of the crime.

Additionally, when Trump was asked about the ad in May 1989 on Larry King Live, CNN claims he stated that he only supported the death penalty for adults -- which would have excluded the Central Park Five because they were all between the ages of 14 and 16.


https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...aim-trump-ad-pushed-execute-innocent-children

With all the respect in the world, Vol, I don't think most of us who oppose Donald Trump care about his position back 30 years.

We oppose him because he is one of the most scummy individuals ever to be in any political arena...a liar, cheat, arrogant, disgusting, vindictive, vengeful, hypocritical, ignorant, immature individuals ever to have influence on the affairs of humanity. (Shamefully, he is our president.)

Oh, yeah...and classless.

So I appreciate your bringing this to our attention, but you could have saved yourself the trouble.

 

[cancel2 2022]

With all the respect in the world, Vol, I don't think most of us who oppose Donald Trump care about his position back 30 years.

We oppose him because he is one of the most scummy individuals ever to be in any political arena...a liar, cheat, arrogant, disgusting, vindictive, vengeful, hypocritical, ignorant, immature individuals ever to have influence on the affairs of humanity. (Shamefully, he is our president.)

Oh, yeah...and classless.

So I appreciate your bringing this to our attention, but you could have saved yourself the trouble.

Frankie, we get it, you don't like Trump.

 

[kudzu]

Hardly bashing, Clinton liked to think he was morally superior to the likes of Bush, but when it came down to it he was just as ruthless.

President Clinton this month granted clemency to 62 people--clemency is the overall term for official forgiveness of a violation. Three of those people received commutations of their sentences. That is, they were released from prison where they were currently serving time.

The rest received pardons, or forgiveness of their crimes after their sentence was served. Pardons come in two forms: full or conditional. A full pardon is a formal forgiveness by the government that restores certain liberties, such as the right to vote or own firearms. It does not imply innocence, nor does it expunge a criminal record.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...rence_between_a_pardon_and_a_commutation.html

 

[Ross Dolan]

Frankie, we get it, you don't like Trump.

You don't get it.

I neither like nor dislike Donald Trump. He is a fellow human. There are times I may get over-the-top when speaking of him...but I apologize for any comments that say I dislike him, hate him, loathe him or anything like that.

I detest with every fiber of my body the fact that he has been elected president of our country.

I deplore with equal fervor the fact that we are allowing this classless, deplorable, disgusting, incompetent, arrogant, childish individual to represent what we American are...to the rest of the world.

I feel even more deeply (in a negative way) that there are still functioning people in our country to continue to support and enable this repulsive, ham-fisted, incompetent person.

But...I handle it all with a broad smile on my face.

Hope you get it now.

 

[Nordberg]

Hardly bashing, Clinton liked to think he was morally superior to the likes of Bush, but when it came down to it he was just as ruthless.

Not ruthless, but political. People die for politics in America.

 

[Nordberg]

With all the respect in the world, Vol, I don't think most of us who oppose Donald Trump care about his position back 30 years.

We oppose him because he is one of the most scummy individuals ever to be in any political arena...a liar, cheat, arrogant, disgusting, vindictive, vengeful, hypocritical, ignorant, immature individuals ever to have influence on the affairs of humanity. (Shamefully, he is our president.)

Oh, yeah...and classless.

So I appreciate your bringing this to our attention, but you could have saved yourself the trouble.

Trump has never apologized for what he said and did about the Central Park 5. Trump absolutely can never admit he was wrong. That is a bad mental and character flaw to have in a president. DNA, fuck it, trump knows better than that.

 

[kudzu]

I didn't know this about Rector and as you know I'm totally against the death penalty. Our governor put a moratorium on it and repubs were so freaked out they took it to the state Supreme Court... and lost.

Bill Clinton had four executions during his term as governor and repubs are criticizing him 25 years later. Yet Rick Perry (R-Tex) had overseen approx. 250 executions including that of intellectually-disabled convict Marvin Wilson, whose IQ was 61.

This is just the usual Clinton bashing and double standards.

A dose of reality........ Thank you.

 

[cancel2 2022]

A dose of reality........ Thank you.

It wasn't about numbers, more the sheer cynicism. He had him executed right before the election to appear tough and macho.

 

[Fentoine Lum]

A dose of reality........ Thank you.

As with all in america, meh, depends upon who does it, we can rationalize anything depending upon who did it.

 

[cancel2 2022]

I didn't know this about Rector and as you know I'm totally against the death penalty. Our governor put a moratorium on it and repubs were so freaked out they took it to the state Supreme Court... and lost.

Bill Clinton had four executions during his term as governor and repubs are criticizing him 25 years later. Yet Rick Perry (R-Tex) had overseen approx. 250 executions including that of intellectually-disabled convict Marvin Wilson, whose IQ was 61.

This is just the usual Clinton bashing and double standards.

Rick Perry is a loathsome reptile.

 

[cancel2 2022]

I didn't know this about Rector and as you know I'm totally against the death penalty. Our governor put a moratorium on it and repubs were so freaked out they took it to the state Supreme Court... and lost.

Bill Clinton had four executions during his term as governor and repubs are criticizing him 25 years later. Yet Rick Perry (R-Tex) had overseen approx. 250 executions including that of intellectually-disabled convict Marvin Wilson, whose IQ was 61.

This is just the usual Clinton bashing and double standards.

Common Dreams is hardly a right wing site, is it?

 

[kudzu]

It wasn't about numbers, more the sheer cynicism. He had him executed right before the election to appear tough and macho.

4 executions while he was governor? Why aren't you flipping out over Perry?

 

[Ross Dolan]

Trump has never apologized for what he said and did about the Central Park 5. Trump absolutely can never admit he was wrong. That is a bad mental and character flaw to have in a president. DNA, fuck it, trump knows better than that.

Trump is a scumbag.

That is something I have never said about any other president...and there were some I truly was not crazy about.

 

[Jade Dragon]

Trump lies alot.. Didn't you know that by now?

Volscrock is an avid disciple in Trump bullshit. I can't recall him being honest,or posting a legit story here. You get some decent stories from some Republicans here on occasion, but he posts bottom barrel fodder on a regular basis. You don't really even have to check sources with his stuff most the time.

 

[kudzu]

Volscrock is an avid disciple in Trump bullshit. I can't recall him being honest,or posting a legit story here. You get some decent stories from some Republicans here on occasion, but he posts bottom barrel fodder on a regular basis. You don't really even have to check sources with his stuff most the time.

Character still matters.. and in their gut they know exactly what Trump is.

 

[Jade Dragon]

Character still matters.. and in their gut they know exactly what Trump is.

Many act like they'd rather go down with the ship then take that ego bruising. Some actually think things are better, because their bigoted ways are given pats on the head, and tummy rubs.