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I'm no Hillary apologist, but somehow I doubt that a 27 y/o newbie was really responsible for driving any of that. She was probably working under a directive of higher ups.
 
writing is on the wall. nobody makes 100k off of 1k on cattle futures their first time investing and then has the audacity to claim ignorance or luck.

go sit thru the series 6, 7, and numerous other security license exams then tell me how its any type of possibility that she was NOT unethical
 
Yeah lets talk about those who get rich off of taxpayer funded stadium deals....

anyone break the law getting public stadiums funded? I haven't read one yet. (Debartalo getting busted wasn't about a 49ers stadium if you are going to try to bring that up).
 
Debartalo ? Who the heck is that ?

the former owner of the 49ers. his family owns the largest retail reit in the country. got busted and lost his team. We were talking about illegal things. You bring up taxpayer funded stadiums. Debartalo was in talks at the time he got busted for a new stadium with the city but the stadium never went through. what else are you talking about? About two dozen, possibly more, stadiums have gone up in the last decade with tax payer funding. No one has been busted yet. What is your point other than trying to claim Debartalo?
 
No I was thinking of GWB and his buddy that bought Tampa bay Bucs.

I lived in Tampa at the time of the Glazer scams.
kinda like the war, he was going to take the team elsewhere if not a new stadium.
He at one time said he would pay half the cost.
It wound up being funded by a raised sales tax on everyone.
And he go all the rights to sell the name to whomever for the stadium, etc.
 
No I was thinking of GWB and his buddy that bought Tampa bay Bucs.

I lived in Tampa at the time of the Glazer scams.
kinda like the war, he was going to take the team elsewhere if not a new stadium.
He at one time said he would pay half the cost.
It wound up being funded by a raised sales tax on everyone.
And he go all the rights to sell the name to whomever for the stadium, etc.

Dude, Bush never bought the Bucs. The Glazier family owns them.
 
No I was thinking of GWB and his buddy that bought Tampa bay Bucs.

I lived in Tampa at the time of the Glazer scams.
kinda like the war, he was going to take the team elsewhere if not a new stadium.
He at one time said he would pay half the cost.
It wound up being funded by a raised sales tax on everyone.
And he go all the rights to sell the name to whomever for the stadium, etc.

Every owner threatens to take their team elsewhere. It's happening in Seattle right now. What does sports stadiums have to do with the original post? How do you get on these random subjects?
 
I'm no Hillary apologist, but somehow I doubt that a 27 y/o newbie was really responsible for driving any of that. She was probably working under a directive of higher ups.

Did you even read the article? It talks about things she did herself... and quotes those higher-ups, who are the ones accusing her of dishonesty and unethical conduct, that would have gotten her disbarred if a judge had found out about them!

But you're not a Hillary apologist, okaaayyy...... :rolleyes:

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Watergate-Era Judiciary Chief of Staff: Hillary Clinton Fired For Lies, Unethical Behavior

Dan Calabrese
March 31, 2008

As Hillary Clinton came under increasing scrutiny for her story about facing sniper fire in Bosnia, one question that arose was whether she has engaged in a pattern of lying.

The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.

Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.

Why?

“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

How could a 27-year-old House staff member do all that? She couldn’t do it by herself, but Zeifman said she was one of several individuals – including Marshall, special counsel John Doar and senior associate special counsel (and future Clinton White House Counsel) Bernard Nussbaum – who engaged in a seemingly implausible scheme to deny Richard Nixon the right to counsel during the investigation.

Why would they want to do that? Because, according to Zeifman, they feared putting Watergate break-in mastermind E. Howard Hunt on the stand to be cross-examined by counsel to the president. Hunt, Zeifman said, had the goods on nefarious activities in the Kennedy Administration that would have made Watergate look like a day at the beach – including Kennedy’s purported complicity in the attempted assassination of Fidel Castro.

The actions of Hillary and her cohorts went directly against the judgment of top Democrats, up to and including then-House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill, that Nixon clearly had the right to counsel. Zeifman says that Hillary, along with Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar, was determined to gain enough votes on the Judiciary Committee to change House rules and deny counsel to Nixon. And in order to pull this off, Zeifman says Hillary wrote a fraudulent legal brief, and confiscated public documents to hide her deception.

The brief involved precedent for representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding. When Hillary endeavored to write a legal brief arguing there is no right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding, Zeifman says, he told Hillary about the case of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, who faced an impeachment attempt in 1970.

“As soon as the impeachment resolutions were introduced by (then-House Minority Leader Gerald) Ford, and they were referred to the House Judiciary Committee, the first thing Douglas did was hire himself a lawyer,” Zeifman said.

The Judiciary Committee allowed Douglas to keep counsel, thus establishing the precedent. Zeifman says he told Hillary that all the documents establishing this fact were in the Judiciary Committee’s public files. So what did Hillary do?

“Hillary then removed all the Douglas files to the offices where she was located, which at that time was secured and inaccessible to the public,” Zeifman said. Hillary then proceeded to write a legal brief arguing there was no precedent for the right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding – as if the Douglas case had never occurred.

The brief was so fraudulent and ridiculous, Zeifman believes Hillary would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.

Zeifman says that if Hillary, Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar had succeeded, members of the House Judiciary Committee would have also been denied the right to cross-examine witnesses, and denied the opportunity to even participate in the drafting of articles of impeachment against Nixon.
 
The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.

Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee.

When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.

“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

Zeifman said she was one of several individuals – who engaged in a seemingly implausible scheme to deny Richard Nixon the right to counsel during the investigation.

The actions of Hillary and her cohorts went directly against the judgment of top Democrats, up to and including then-House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill

Zeifman says Hillary wrote a fraudulent legal brief, and confiscated public documents to hide her deception.

The brief was so fraudulent and ridiculous, Zeifman believes Hillary would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.

People who look at Hillary with eyes open, have known of her megalomania and lack of character for many years, of course. It's heartwarming to see the truth finally even registering in Democrat consciousnesses for the first time.

The 2008 campaign has introduced something new to the Clintons, that they have never had to contend with before: Scrutiny from a press that is NOT fawning all over them, at last. The results are looking worse and worse for them.
 
People who look at Hillary with eyes open, have known of her megalomania and lack of character for many years, of course. It's heartwarming to see the truth finally even registering in Democrat consciousnesses for the first time.

The 2008 campaign has introduced something new to the Clintons, that they have never had to contend with before: Scrutiny from a press that is NOT fawning all over them, at last. The results are looking worse and worse for them.

I think they have been wrung through the press quite a bit over the years. I think it is this level of scrutiny from within their own party that is new them.
 
I think they have been wrung through the press quite a bit over the years.
Yes, they have. And even that press scrutiny has barely scratched the surface.

The press has had a habit of publishing the fact, say, that Hillary parleyed $1,000 into $100,000 by learning how to play the stock market from the Wall Street Journal. And then they sit back and allow that they've done their job... while carefully NOT investigating how it is possible for ANYONE to get that good at the stock market, who was doing the actual buying and selling, what other not-so-lucrative trades that person was handling at the same time, etc., to say nothing of the fact that the WSJ wasn't even giving stock market buy/sell advice during the period in question.

The Clintons have gotten similar not-very-investigative reporting on nearly every other scandal they have pulled. We've been informed that the scandals exist, but little reporting has been done beyond the mere announcement of the fact. The apparent deluge that even this light treatment has produced, gives a hint as to just how corrupt the Clintons have been in reality. Had a Republican been this involved in this many scandals, the New York Times alone would have printed three times as many pages in the period from 1992 thru 2000, as would most other leftist papers. And all the major TV news channels would have gained viewership for eight years, instead of steadily losing it as they all did (except Fox).

I think it is this level of scrutiny from within their own party that is new them.
Since their party includes most of the press mentioned above, I'm inclined to agree with you.
 
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