10 Key Takeaways From The New York Times’ Error-Ridden Defense Of FBI Spying

noise said:
who do you mean exactly? what conversations?
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What do I mean? I mean that the FBI was surveilling Russian spies who turned out to be in contact with Trump's people.

Why were Trump's people talking with Russians while Trump was declaring there was no contact at all?
 
noise said:
first off talking to Russians should not start an investigation unless there was some underlying evidence
there was some collusion/ talking to Russians is not evidence of a crime

secondly the surveillance was extraordinary -not just phone taps, but informants, and Emails,and "secret letters"-\why? and this was on American citizens who are supposedly protected by the 4th
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Unless, of course, the talkers talking to Russians were on Clinton's payroll, or Obama's payroll. Then it's LOCK HER UP time.

I like this better.... Mueller Time. lol
 
The Derp said:
Because he lied. The investigative agents were wrong. Flynn lied to the FBI about his contact with Russia - contact Trump said he didn't have.

So why was Trump saying his people had no contact with Russia when it seems like everyone on his team did, and then lied about it?
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no. Flynn had ordinary contact as incoming national security adviser.

For some reason he lied to Pence,and Trump fired him -but the contact was not a violation of Logan ( which doesn't exist) and was an expected duty.

the lying was process crimes -not going to collusion
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/1/16724742/michael-flynn-plead-guilty-lied-fbi
 
Rune said:
It isn't evident. You are pulling shit out of your ass.
Why did papa lie?
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please,please..adults are trying to connect the dots. you are unqualified to be in this conversation.

Yes it's evident -it's what the professor offered.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Unless, of course, the talkers talking to Russians were on Clinton's payroll, or Obama's payroll. Then it's LOCK HER UP time.

I like this better.... Mueller Time. lol
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. The steele dossier was a loathsome move by Clinton,
but not ANY reason for an investigation.

what is being investigated by the IG is
WHY the dossier was used as a basis for FISA and the Counterintelligence investigation
 
The Derp said:
Because he was Secretary of State.




Trump said "no one on [his] team has ever had contact with Russia". He said that several times. So that was a lie, wasn't it? His team did have contact with Russia. So why was he saying they didn't?
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He isn't Secretary of State anymore. He should not be meeting with Iranians. He has no official capacity with the United States government. But, I had no doubt you would defend his violation of the Logan Act
 
The Derp said:
No, they were surveilling Russian communication. Russian communication that happened to be with the Trump campaign, while Trump was saying "no contact with Russia". Why was Trump's team talking with Russia, and why did Trump say they weren't?
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Well at least you are admitting that the Obama administration wiretapped Trump Tower just as Trump claimed. But, as I said, if there was anything in those communications that was incriminating, we would know it by now. If the Obama Administrations spy had anything of substance, we would know about it by now.

But, you keep clinging to this hope that Trump will be impeached and Hillary will be inaugurated. I am sure it keeps your warm and cozy at night
 
noise said:
please,please..adults are trying to connect the dots. you are unqualified to be in this conversation.

Yes it's evident -it's what the professor offered.
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No, YOU are the one who is unqualified.

You've had your lunch eaten in this thread by The Derp, OwlWoman, Mcawber and Rune.

You should pick up your toys and slink home in shame.

You've made a complete fool of yourself.
 
The Derp said:
The FBI had an informant and his name was George Papadopolous. And he became an informant because he was caught lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russia. Contacts Trump said didn't happen. So why did Trump lie and say no one on his team had any contact with Russia, when Papadopolous was caught lying to the FBI about contact with Russia?
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You are uninformed. Please do try to catch up.

According to you, Papadopolous became an informant in July 2016. Where is that reporting? Please cite
 
Nomad said:
No, YOU are the one who is unqualified.

You've had your lunch eaten in this thread by The Derp, OwlWoman and Rune.

You should pick up your toys and go home in shame.
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I had a good conversation going.
asked and answered with civility and debate.

Then you showed up to take a shit all over the thread. ( sorry I thought I was responding to Rune)
 
Nomad said:
No, YOU are the one who is unqualified.

You've had your lunch eaten in this thread by The Derp, OwlWoman, Mcawber and Rune.

You should pick up your toys and slink home in shame.

You've made a complete fool of yourself.
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The poor little baby.
So angry that others don't accept his bald faced lies.
 
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