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Greenland melt 'speeding up'
Break-off point into the ocean of Helheim Glacier in southeast Greenland. (Image: NASA/Wallops).
This Greenland glacier is now one of the fastest moving in the world
The meltdown of Greenland's ice sheet is speeding up, satellite measurements show.

Data from a US space agency (Nasa) satellite show that the melting rate has accelerated since 2004.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4783199.stm

amazing what a difference a couple of years can make dip shit.
 
Or this:
reenland Melt Accelerating, According To Climate Scientist

ScienceDaily (Dec. 12, 2007) — The 2007 melt extent on the Greenland ice sheet broke the 2005 summer melt record by 10 percent, making it the largest ever recorded there since satellite measurements began in 1979, according to a University of Colorado at Boulder climate scientist.

The melting increased by about 30 percent for the western part of Greenland from 1979 to 2006, with record melt years in 1987, 1991, 1998, 2002, 2005 and 2007, said CU-Boulder Professor Konrad Steffen, director of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071211233433.htm
 
ib1yysguy said:
It is that simple. Greenland is melting exponentially faster than scientists predicted. That's a huge flush of fresh water into the ocean. Fresh water screws up the currents because its density is different than heavier salt water. As it slows the currents, it slows the warm air streams and cools the water.

This isn't rocket science.
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Oh but it is if you don't understand ocean currents and how fresh water kills the circulation of water in the ocean.
 
Damocles said:
So, before I read this I will guess that we have heard about the Consensus, and it was used to attempt an ad hominem rather than to explain and address the interesting cooling phenomena in the Ocean.
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Wow, one of the few times warming has been brought up without the chiming in of the 'Consensus'. After reading the thread I found that my guess was in error.
 
Greenland ice isn't melting. Global warming isn't happening! And the Earth is warming because of the sun. And Greenlands ice isn't melting BECAUSE OF THAT!
 
Watermark said:
Greenland ice isn't melting. Global warming isn't happening! And the Earth is warming because of the sun. And Greenlands ice isn't melting BECAUSE OF THAT!
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The only one of these possible is the Sun one. There is the interesting phenomena of the other 9 planets warming during the same period. It isn't our pollution doing that.
 
The hundreds of conflicting things that fearmongering global warming deniers come up to justify their disbelief in facts just proves that they have no logical basis other than to oppose the commons sense idea that new CO2 emmissions cause warming. They exist in opposition for the sake of it rather than in fact.
 
Watermark said:
The hundreds of conflicting things that fearmongering global warming deniers come up to justify their disbelief in facts just proves that they have no logical basis other than to oppose the commons sense idea that new CO2 emmissions cause warming. They exist in opposition for the sake of it rather than in fact.
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Using outside information to disprove hypothesis is part of the scientific process, ignoring questions is not. It is illogical to ignore the warming of 9 globes to blame it only on CO2.

It is also illogical to ignore the average warming is less on the other 9 globes because they have warmed and to find out why the average was slightly higher here than on those.

All of the information should be brought to bear, not just the ones that support your own theory.
 
http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2006/brightness.shtml

Changes in Solar Brightness Too Weak to Explain Global Warming

September 13, 2006

BOULDER—Changes in the Sun's brightness over the past millennium have had only a small effect on Earth's climate, according to a review of existing results and new calculations performed by researchers in the United States, Switzerland, and Germany.

The review, led by Peter Foukal (Heliophysics, Inc.), appears in the September 14 issue of Nature. Among the coauthors is Tom Wigley of the National Center for Atmospheric Research. NCAR’s primary sponsor is the National Science Foundation.

“Our results imply that, over the past century, climate change due to human influences must far outweigh the effects of changes in the Sun's brightness,” says Wigley.

Reconstructions of climate over the past millennium show a warming since the 17th century, which has accelerated dramatically over the past 100 years. Many recent studies have attributed the bulk of 20th-century global warming to an increase in greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere. Natural internal variability of Earth’s climate system may also have played a role. However, the discussion is complicated by a third possibility: that the Sun's brightness could have increased.

The new review in Nature examines the factors observed by astronomers that relate to solar brightness. It then analyzes how those factors have changed along with global temperature over the last 1,000 years.






That's from Nature. Now bring out your World Net Daily.
 
Watermark said:
http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2006/brightness.shtml

Changes in Solar Brightness Too Weak to Explain Global Warming

September 13, 2006

BOULDER—Changes in the Sun's brightness over the past millennium have had only a small effect on Earth's climate, according to a review of existing results and new calculations performed by researchers in the United States, Switzerland, and Germany.

The review, led by Peter Foukal (Heliophysics, Inc.), appears in the September 14 issue of Nature. Among the coauthors is Tom Wigley of the National Center for Atmospheric Research. NCAR’s primary sponsor is the National Science Foundation.

“Our results imply that, over the past century, climate change due to human influences must far outweigh the effects of changes in the Sun's brightness,” says Wigley.

Reconstructions of climate over the past millennium show a warming since the 17th century, which has accelerated dramatically over the past 100 years. Many recent studies have attributed the bulk of 20th-century global warming to an increase in greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere. Natural internal variability of Earth’s climate system may also have played a role. However, the discussion is complicated by a third possibility: that the Sun's brightness could have increased.

The new review in Nature examines the factors observed by astronomers that relate to solar brightness. It then analyzes how those factors have changed along with global temperature over the last 1,000 years.






That's from Nature. Now bring out your World Net Daily.
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Hence the reason I said that the Sun was the most likely culprit for the rest, but the changes in the Earth were too large to explain away by the Sun.

Have you been taking CK's and Cypress' classes in reading incomprehension again?
 
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