solid proof of evolution

Darth Omar said:
It’s not a faulty premise: Life can’t be made to happen even when we try.

What’s faulty is the assumption that life can occur anytime the right conditions are in place.
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Even when we try?

We can recreate some of the conditions of the primordial earth, but not all & not in the same way or with the same circumstances, and not w/ the lengths of time needed.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
do we have to prove it if we don't give a fuck if you believe it or not?.......
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Yes you do, as long as you keep on trying to force your beliefs on the rest of us by trying to write it into our laws and sneak it into the public school curriculum.

So again, yes.

Prove it or get it out of our faces and confine your practice of it to your homes and churches.
 
Thing1 said:
Even when we try?

We can recreate some of the conditions of the primordial earth, but not all & not in the same way or with the same circumstances, and not w/ the lengths of time needed.
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The things that are created when we are way below what’s necessary even for a rudimentary form of life.

On what basis do we assume that life will occur anytime or anywhere conditions are right?
 
Darth Omar said:
The things that are created when we are way below what’s necessary even for a rudimentary form of life.

On what basis do we assume that life will occur anytime or anywhere conditions are right?
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We can't make ANY assumptions about it. We can't recreate a primordial earth, and we certainly can't "add" the periods of time that might have been necessary for life to arise.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
oh gosh, I forgot......nobody does science any more.....
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That doesn't answer the question. If life arose - as essentially a one-celled, completely vulnerable organism, in a niche already filled & populated w/ all kinds of predators - how long would it survive, and how would someone who "does science" find it in that time?
 
Thing1 said:
That doesn't answer the question. If life arose - as essentially a one-celled, completely vulnerable organism, in a niche already filled & populated w/ all kinds of predators - how long would it survive, and how would someone who "does science" find it in that time?
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so life that can survive is a rare thing but life isn't?......
 
Nomad said:
It's not that there can't be a creator if science holds the truth, it's just that the Biblical version of God doesn't seem very likely.



The fundies have to have their Biblically approved form of God and nothing else. If it isn't spelled out for them in a book or on paper, they can't accept it.
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Remember the bible was written by men not God so you can't take every word litterly.
 
Thing1 said:
We can't make ANY assumptions about it. We can't recreate a primordial earth, and we certainly can't "add" the periods of time that might have been necessary for life to arise.
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But you’re assuming gobs of time would help lol.

How do we test that assumption?
 
Thing1 said:
Darth, you're the one who made the "infinitesimally small" assumption. I'm the one saying you can't assume that.
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We can’t duplicate it even when we try to.

At minimum, the probability of life just happening to come into existence is ‘pretty danged’ small.

That’s being generous.
 
Darth Omar said:
We can’t duplicate it even when we try to.

At minimum, the probability of life just happening to come into existence is ‘pretty danged’ small.

That’s being generous.
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(sigh) HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU CAN'T ADD TIME TO THE EQUATION?

Even if it's a few thousand years, which is nothing on the geological scale. You're making faulty assumptions - sorry. That's it.
 
Thing1 said:
(sigh) HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU CAN'T ADD TIME TO THE EQUATION?

Even if it's a few thousand years, which is nothing on the geological scale. You're making faulty assumptions - sorry. That's it.
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You’re assuming lots of time would help.

On what basis do you make that assumption?
 
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