NYT - A Billionaire and a Nurse Shouldn’t Pay the Same Fine for Speeding

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Text Drivers are Killers

Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
We also need to suspend drivers licenses for traffic offenders. That hurts every offender, rich and poor

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/opinion/flat-fines-wealthy-poor.html

marh 15 2018 For people living on the economic margins, even minor offenses can impose crushing financial obligations, trapping them in a cycle of debt and incarceration for nonpayment. In Ferguson, Mo., for example, a single $151 parking violation sent a black woman struggling with homelessness into a seven-year odyssey of court appearances, arrest warrants and jail time connected to her inability to pay.

Across America, one-size-fits-all fines are the norm, which I demonstrate in an article for the University of Chicago Law Review. Where judges do have wiggle room to choose the size of a fine, mandatory minimums and maximums often tie their hands. Some states even prohibit consideration of a person’s income. And when courts are allowed to take finances into account, they frequently fail to do so.

Other places have saner methods. Finland and Argentina, for example, have tailored fines to income for almost 100 years. The most common model, the “day fine,” scales sanctions to a person’s daily wage. A small offense like littering might cost a fraction of a day’s pay. A serious crime might swallow a month’s paycheck. Everyone pays the same proportion of their income.
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Yes, don't fully stop at a stop sign then suspend their license. That should work wonders for our economy
 
So whats next ?....should we be charged different amounts for a quart of milk ?....a cup of coffee ?

We obviously have a tiered justice system or Hillary would have been charged with mishandling classified material and Clapper would have been charged with lying to Congress
under oath.....
 
This does not pass my smell test. Every state I've lived in has fine reductions for the poor and the ability to pay over a long period of time or do volunteer work to pay it off.
 
NOVA said:
So whats next ?....should we be charged different amounts for a quart of milk ?....a cup of coffee ?

We obviously have a tiered justice system or Hillary would have been charged with mishandling classified material and Clapper would have been charged with lying to Congress
under oath.....
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i would not be opposed to this for certain things. Bail price is the first thing that immediatly comes to my mind.
 
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Yaya said:
This does not pass my smell test. Every state I've lived in has fine reductions for the poor and the ability to pay over a long period of time or do volunteer work to pay it off.
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Why should the poor get a lower fine for the SAME offense?
 
cawacko said:
Yes, don't fully stop at a stop sign then suspend their license. That should work wonders for our economy
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Suspension of the license is a bit severe. However, if the fine for running the sign is an amount for the higher income people, the fine should be the same for the lower income people.
 
Lets see

A rich guy pays 50k in income tax, he pays 300.00 for speeding ticket

The poor guy with an income of 18k a year pays zero income tax and gets 3500.00 back...he pays 3.00 for speeding ticket

Yup seems fair:laugh:
 
volsrock said:
Lets see

A rich guy pays 50k in income tax, he pays 300.00 for speeding ticket

The poor guy with an income of 18k a year pays zero income tax and gets 3500.00 back...he pays 3.00 for speeding ticket

Yup seems fair:laugh:
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Liberals have quite a different mindset when it comes to responsibility than they do when it comes to benefiting in society.
 
CFM said:
Yet you've provided nothing to support your claims.
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So if I supposedly "have nothing to support my claims" that you are a racist, then you are implying that you do not consider yourself to be a racist?
Am I reading your obtuse comment correctly?
 
Leonthecat said:
So if I supposedly "have nothing to support my claims" that you are a racist, then you are implying that you do not consider yourself to be a racist?
Am I reading your obtuse comment correctly?
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You call me a racist. It's up to you to provide proof of it. Can you? Since you have yet to do so, it means you can't, therefore, you can answer you own question for lack of proof.
 
CFM said:
You call me a racist. It's up to you to provide proof of it. Can you? Since you have yet to do so, it means you can't, therefore, you can answer you own question for lack of proof.
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If I were to post a poll here asking if the other members consider you to be a racist, what do you think the results would show?
You should first consider that many republicans and conservative members already have condemned your racist views and language and many have you on ignore because of your overt racism.
 
Leonthecat said:
If I were to post a poll here asking if the other members consider you to be a racist, what do you think the results would show?
You should first consider that many republicans and conservative members already have condemned your racist views and language and many have you on ignore because of your overt racism.
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Yet YOU can't provide one bit of proof to back up your claim.

Post it. The results would be as meaningful as you miserable existence. Nothing.
 
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