SmarterthanYou
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the electoral college was created by the founding fathers. how the fuck do you come to the moronic conclusion that that is NOT what they had in mind?
The need to reconsider the Electoral College (and it has nothing to do with Trump)
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the electoral college was created by the founding fathers. how the fuck do you come to the moronic conclusion that that is NOT what they had in mind?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
how does one americans vote have more weight than another right now?
Teflon Don
I'm back baby
democrats being disenfranchised sounds awesome lol.
want to take our money?
we'll take your votes.
"Yes it is" TD #44
Deaths that almost certainly would not have taken place, if the winner of the vote not been thwarted from taking the office by a premature SCOTUS ruling that discharged the will of the Republican majority on the court.
Thousands of innocent Americans died as a result of these executive branch lies.
Deaths that almost certainly would not have taken place, if the winner of the vote not been thwarted from taking the office by a premature SCOTUS ruling that discharged the will of the Republican majority on the court.
Correct.
Jade Dragon
And I'm the one that jaded you.
I wish people would give up talking about this. It's not going to change, and it's an issue that pisses people off with a passion, for nothing. Anyone want to see the rant I originally was posting, before I got my pain levels, and frustration under control? I doubt it.
One vote, one voice, all the way. The whole reason for a vote is to decide the majority. No one should have any kiddie points, because they feel outnumbered.
One vote, one voice, all the way. The whole reason for a vote is to decide the majority. No one should have any kiddie points, because they feel outnumbered.
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77% of the Congressional Senate voted to pass the Iraq war resolution......to go to war with Iraq......
Vietnam War was ordered by the Kennedy and Johnson (not voted on by Congress) where 10's of thousands of innocent Americans died, on a lie about being attacked in Gulf of Tonkin...
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Absolutely the obsolete and out-dated Electoral College must be addressed ..as well as putting in place checks and balances that will prevent a moron unfit for office from ever being given the nuclear codes ever again.
If that requires a constitutional amendment, so be it as the constitution itself should be updated.
Yes, including Senator Clinton (D-NY).
They were deliberately disinformed, lied to.
There's no way that could not have been a LIE.
Not only that. We never should have signed that treaty in the first place. But I agree. The Gulf of Tonkin resolution didn't make it any better.
In any case "two wrongs don't make a right". The U.S. fights too many wars. It's long past time to dial that back. I'd like to personally thank President Obama for insisting that the boots on the ground to defeat ISIL be occupied by non-American feet.
First off let me say that I never thought that we should have gone into Iraq. But I also do not believe we were lied to. Every intelligence agency in the world believed that Iraq had restarted it's various weapons programs. They believed that because Saddam wanted them to believe it. He wanted his neighbors to fear that he might have them and would be willing to use them.
Second. While we waited for the order to go into Iraq I sat on the border and watched convoy after convoy go into Syria.
Anyone remember the talking heads who spoke about the possible mobile biological production trucks we found? But those same talking heads had an expert say they couldn't have been used for biological production because of the absence of an autoclave. Know what an autoclave does? It sterlizes equipment after use. It's essentially a high tech pressure cooker. If you aren't worried about secondary contamination after production you don't need an autoclave.
Fourth. Since we stepped foot into Iraq to present we have found in excess of a thousand chemical weapons. Many were left over from the Gulf War. Remember the ones he said he destroyed but couldn't prove were destroyed. And others had been produced at various times after the Gulf War.
Lastly. During our time there more than 4 million government documents were found. Many of which showed they did pay various groups who had proven they killed westerners. The program that was decoding and documenting those findings was defunded after Obama entered office when there were still around a million and a half documents left to decipher.
But still. Even given all this I don't think we should have gone into Iraq. That does not mean we were lied to.
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I'll quote the lie, and then parse it for you.
How can a falsehood be a certitude?
It's a lie. There is no other rational explanation.
So what?
The "U.N." had been conducting "weapons inspections", basically search & destroy missions for years.
"They" (we) had been over Iraq with a fine-toothed comb. We knew what Saddam had, and what he didn't have.
The Bushies lied.
And the evidence was plain to see.
When JFK publicized the Cuban Missile Crisis, JFK displayed U2 aerial photographs, PHOTOGRAPHS of Russian missiles on Cuban soil.
So what evidence did Secretary Powell present to the U.N. General Assembly?
U.S. government drawings. ARTWORK! Of ostensible mobile WMD labs. WHAT A SHAM! It was all a fraud.
I wasn't a big fan of Bush. But I call a spade a spade.
I like how you only took snippets of my post. It shows your true intent.
Me too, though GHWB was the best comedian. His broccoli speech was worthy of prime-time.
While I don't much care for the other two, I admire and appreciate the integrity of the eldest Bush, now reportedly the longest lived of any U.S. president.
I liked JEB! from the start, without having a rational justification for it. I just liked him, though never voted for him.
Ah, something else we have in common.
100% correct!
Mine is a skill only the very best of communicators have mastered.
It is the intrinsic structure of clear, concise, unambiguous communication. Thank you for noticing.
I'll take Thumper's word on this. He was there, as were a few I've spoken to who were also there. Were you there?