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which probably is why the conservative media, and then obvious conservatives, always define Mueller's investigation in terms of proving collusion, you seldom see them frame Mueller as investigating Russian influence in the election, which is closer to its purpose

But it isn't' collusion that could bring down the Administration, but rather the cover up, as we have already seen individuals have been found being less than honest, and if Flynn has turned, the inside information he could reveal might bring obstruction into the picture big time
 
anchovies said:
which probably is why the conservative media, and then obvious conservatives, always define Mueller's investigation in terms of proving collusion, you seldom see them frame Mueller as investigating Russian influence in the election, which is closer to its purpose But it isn't' collusion that could bring down the Administration, but rather the cover up, as we have already seen individuals have been found being less than honest, and if Flynn has turned, the inside information he could reveal might bring obstruction into the picture big time
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"Could"..."if"..."might"... :rofl2:
 
There is no Trump/Putin collusion. How many times do you have to be told, young 'un :palm:
 
I don’t care if they get them on collusion, obstruction or the Logan act. I would like to see him go down. I’m already very happy with the results, even if nothing else happens. The rest is gravy.
 
Jarod said:
I don’t care if they get them on collusion, obstruction or the Logan act. I would like to see him go down. I’m already very happy with the results, even if nothing else happens. The rest is gravy.
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If Jane Fonda nor John Kerry was arrested for the Logan Act....nobody will ever be if there is any justice in the US........
 
NOVA said:
If Jane Fonda nor John Kerry was arrested for the Logan Act....nobody will ever be if there is any justice in the US........
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What policy were Fonda or Kerry talking to a foreign government about changing?
 
archives said:
which probably is why the conservative media, and then obvious conservatives, always define Mueller's investigation in terms of proving collusion, you seldom see them frame Mueller as investigating Russian influence in the election, which is closer to its purpose

But it isn't' collusion that could bring down the Administration, but rather the cover up, as we have already seen individuals have been found being less than honest, and if Flynn has turned, the inside information he could reveal might bring obstruction into the picture big time
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They already have collusion, or at the least, conspiracy to collude.

But...given your OP title, it will ultimately be obstruction that causes this giant pile of orange shit to crash.
 
Althea said:
They already have collusion, or at the least, conspiracy to collude.

But...given your OP title, it will ultimately be obstruction that causes this giant pile of orange shit to crash.
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Too difficult, you have to definitively establish proof of quid pro quo, nearly impossible unless both sides confess

Charges of obstruction seem more likely, but I wouldn't be surprise if charges similar to those against Manaford were what they wind up with, which would be bad considering now the figures will be in the President's inner circle, love to see the Income Tax Returns become an issue
 
Jarod said:
I don’t care if they get them on collusion, obstruction or the Logan act. I would like to see him go down. I’m already very happy with the results, even if nothing else happens. The rest is gravy.
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Go for the Logan Act.

Let the whole world know how absolutely desperate you are to overturn an election.
 
Darth Omar said:
Hopefully it won’t be a dry hole like the others lol.
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Can't say the others were "dry holes," one former campaign manager and assistant campaign manager were indicted, a foreign affairs advisor of the campaign and an inner circle advisor of the campaign pleaded guilty, and the later two are seemingly singing like canaries, wouldn't call that a "dry hole"
 
archives said:
Too difficult, you have to definitively establish proof of quid pro quo, nearly impossible unless both sides confess

Charges of obstruction seem more likely, but I wouldn't be surprise if charges similar to those against Manaford were what they wind up with, which would be bad considering now the figures will be in the President's inner circle, love to see the Income Tax Returns become an issue
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I think money laundering and tax evasion are definite possibilities against President Trump
 
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