Guys Like Matt Lauer Are Why We Have President Trump

cawacko said:
This is spot on. You go Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush I. Did any of those guys have big sexual scandals prior to or during their terms? (They had issues but not of the sexual kind). Gary Hart had to drop out in '87 because it was found he had a mistress.

Clinton was a game changer both in terms of actions prior to and during his presidency.
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Clinton had consented sex. That has zero to do with these cretins, and their law breaking disgraces. The only thing Clinton broke was terms of marriage, and truth under oath.
 
countryboy said:
There was a time when Libs would circle the wagons around one of their own no matter what. It's hilarious watching them eat their own, throwing their fellow Travelers under the bus left and right.
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Many people on this forum were saying that if we went after Moore, we needed to go after the ones on our side. Which way do people want it? I really don't care who did these things, even if it was a well known musician, a cousin, or someone else I like. These things need to be taken care of, because a sick creep, is a sick creep no matter what their standing in life is.
 
Jade Dragon said:
Clinton had consented sex. That has zero to do with these cretins, and their law breaking disgraces. The only thing Clinton broke was terms of marriage, and truth under oath.
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Perjury in court during a sexual harassment lawsuit.

https://www.vox.com/2016/10/9/13221...ey-bill-clinton-sexual-harassment-accusations

Jones alleged that in 1991, when she worked for the State of Arkansas' Industrial Development Commission, Clinton propositioned her and exposed himself at a conference in Little Rock. Clinton, Jones claimed, beckoned her to his suite at the hotel where the conference was being held, and after a few minutes of conversation, "unexpectedly reached over to me, took my hand, and pulled me toward him, so that our bodies were close to each other."

Clinton then, she said, made a number of sexual comments ("I love your curves"), slid his hand up her thigh, and tried unsuccessfully to kiss her on the neck until she stopped him. Jones claims she asked, "What are you doing?" and walked away from Clinton, and tried to change the conversation, after which Clinton walked back toward her, "lowered his trousers and underwear, exposed his penis (which was erect) and told me to 'kiss it.'" Jones rejected the overture, to which she claims Clinton replied, "I don't want to make you do anything you don't want to do." Before she left, she claims Clinton added, "You are smart. Let's keep this between ourselves."
 
Jade Dragon said:
Many people on this forum were saying that if we went after Moore, we needed to go after the ones on our side. Which way do people want it? I really don't care who did these things, even if it was a well known musician, a cousin, or someone else I like. These things need to be taken care of, because a sick creep, is a sick creep no matter what their standing in life is.
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Presumption of innocence is how it's supposed to work.
 
tinfoil said:
I felt it was a really bad precedent to set at the time back in 98 and I knew it would lead to people ignoring laws and making excuses for people they like. I came to the conclusion back then that I needed to change since everyone else thought differently and so I also became one of those people who "compartmentalized" my opinions of others.
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It's kind of amazing to see the double-standards on this - in some cases, almost immediately. As partisan as Pelosi is, I was still shocked when her first reaction to Conyers was the whole "due process/he's an icon" thing after Moore week. No attempt to even feign consistency.
 
floridafan said:
Was there a presumption of innocence when the Republican party went after Hillary? Can you still see Mike Flynn standing on the podium during the Republican convention yelling "lock her up"?
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James Comey laid out the case against Hillary, there's no question she broke multiple laws, and there are people in prison today for far less. You are comparing apples and oranges. Try taking your partisan blinders off just once in your life.
 
countryboy said:
Have you forgotten Clinton was accused of rape, multiple times?
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She knows nothing about "Ol' Cum Stain" ...except what she's been spoon fed by liberal madrasas

She believes the Hillbag over Juanita Broderick, Kathleen Wiley, and Paula Jones with her 850k settlement from Bill and Hill.
 
countryboy said:
James Comey laid out the case against Hillary, there's no question she broke multiple laws, and there are people in prison today for far less. You are comparing apples and oranges. Try taking your partisan blinders off just once in your life.
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There was no case against Hillary, had there been she would have been indicted like everyone else. In fact the cries to imprison Hillary began way way before that. Your excuse is weak.
 
countryboy said:
Presumption of innocence is how it's supposed to work.
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I'd say there's enough evidence to hold off him running though. Just like there was enough evidence to fire Lauer. Innocence means they won't be charged criminally until found guilty. He needs to be proven not guilty before trying for a position of power.
 
countryboy said:
Have you forgotten Clinton was accused of rape, multiple times?
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And that was dealt with, outside of him having a position of power. The accusations went nowhere, we'll see if the same could be said for Moore. Random citizen accusations don't hold much weight, but Mall records, and a police officer confirming her job was to keep him away from the malls is a bit more.
 
Jade Dragon said:
And that was dealt with, outside of him having a position of power. The accusations went nowhere, we'll see if the same could be said for Moore. Random citizen accusations don't hold much weight, but Mall records, and a police officer confirming her job was to keep him away from the malls is a bit more.
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"Banned from the Mall" was fake news. Suckered again by the SS media :palm:
 
Jade Dragon said:
I'd say there's enough evidence to hold off him running though. Just like there was enough evidence to fire Lauer. Innocence means they won't be charged criminally until found guilty. He needs to be proven not guilty before trying for a position of power.
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What evidence is that? At least one question could be cleared up within 24 hours. Why won't the alleged 14 year old accuser allow independent forensic analysis of the yearbook? That doesn't make you suspicious at all? To say nothing of other inconsistencies in the accounts.
 
Jade Dragon said:
And that was dealt with, outside of him having a position of power. The accusations went nowhere, we'll see if the same could be said for Moore. Random citizen accusations don't hold much weight, but Mall records, and a police officer confirming her job was to keep him away from the malls is a bit more.
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You don't see your bias? Did you call for Clinton to step down as president for mere allegations of rape? Yet, you feel justified in calling for Moore to bow out of an election? I guess I was wrong about you. I thought you were more fair minded than that.
 
Jade Dragon said:
And that was dealt with, outside of him having a position of power. The accusations went nowhere, we'll see if the same could be said for Moore. Random citizen accusations don't hold much weight, but Mall records, and a police officer confirming her job was to keep him away from the malls is a bit more.
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BTW, there are no mall records, and the manager of the mall at the time has confirmed that.
 
evince said:
bite a dead mules cock


you hate me because I kick your ass with facts and morality


you have no morals

just Putins balls rolling arround in your mouth
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I've noticed that you also kick everyone's ass with that awesome grammar and those spelling skills you have.
 
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