Well one thing will be resolved with the GOP Tax Bill,

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it will expose and finally put an end to the conservatives' fraudulent claim that they are so concerned about deficits/debts and how they damage the economy, jeopardize the county's future, our grandchildren, yada yada yada

Proves once again it never had anything to do with ideological beliefs nor economic principles, they just hated the fact Obama was President, you can decide the why but it seems pretty obvious
 
Obama won the battle and lost the war with health care. Looks like the Republicans are going to do the same thing with tax reform.
 
archives said:
it will expose and finally put an end to the conservatives' fraudulent claim that they are so concerned about deficits/debts and how they damage the economy, jeopardize the county's future, our grandchildren, yada yada yada

Proves once again it never had anything to do with ideological beliefs nor economic principles, they just hated the fact Obama was President, you can decide the why but it seems pretty obvious
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The only party that is ever concerned about deficits is the party that is out of power. You would think you know that.

Blowing through deficits and debt are a bipartisan effort. But, I understand your hackery
 
archives said:
it will expose and finally put an end to the conservatives' fraudulent claim that they are so concerned about deficits/debts and how they damage the economy, jeopardize the county's future, our grandchildren, yada yada yada

Proves once again it never had anything to do with ideological beliefs nor economic principles, they just hated the fact Obama was President, you can decide the why but it seems pretty obvious
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Political parties like to spend money when they are in power but don't like it when they aren't but somehow that has to do with race. Ok.
 
katzgar said:
Obama won the battle and lost the war with health care. Looks like the Republicans are going to do the same thing with tax reform.
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I'd hardly say he "lost the war" with health care, historically he'll always be noted as the President who got the Gov't to have a say on it's citizens health care, a dream of all the Presidents going back to T. Roosevelt. Eventually it will occur in some form, even the ACA still isn't replaced

The tax bill will get a sugar high, Americans will get giddy about the few hundred dollar decrease they see, but down the road when the bill comes the real effects will be understood
 
cawacko said:
Political parties like to spend money when they are in power but don't like it when they aren't but somehow that has to do with race. Ok.
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Did I say race?

And the political party now spending have been yelling for decades that deficits and debt was one of their major concerns, a standard of their supposed principles, the cry went beyond "not liking it," it was front and center, and today, forgotten.

Point being it was all just a fraud, talking point, pure demogoguery, dependent solely on who occupied the White House
 
archives said:
Did I say race?

And the political party now spending have been yelling for decades that deficits and debt was one of their major concerns, a standard of their supposed principles, the cry went beyond "not liking it," it was front and center, and today, forgotten.

Point being it was all just a fraud, talking point, pure demogoguery, dependent solely on who occupied the White House
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"You can decide why..."
 
Fauxcahontas said:
The only party that is ever concerned about deficits is the party that is out of power. You would think you know that.

Blowing through deficits and debt are a bipartisan effort. But, I understand your hackery
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What benefit will you or most anyone else have from this tax "reform"?
 
Fauxcahontas said:
The only party that is ever concerned about deficits is the party that is out of power. You would think you know that.

Blowing through deficits and debt are a bipartisan effort. But, I understand your hackery
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clintin and the dems lowered the debt with budget surpluses



NOT ONE REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR THAT BILL
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993#Legislative_history


Legislative history[edit]
Ultimately every Republican in Congress voted against the bill, as did a number of Democrats. Vice President Al Gore broke a tie in the Senate on both the Senate bill and the conference report. The House bill passed 219-213 on Thursday, May 27, 1993.[1] The House passed the conference report on Thursday, August 5, 1993, by a vote of 218 to 216 (217 Democrats and 1 independent (Sanders (I-VT)) voting in favor; 41 Democrats and 175 Republicans voting against).[2] The Senate passed the conference report on the last day before their month's vacation, on Friday, August 6, 1993, by a vote of 51 to 50 (50 Democrats plus Vice President Gore voting in favor, 6 Democrats (Lautenberg (D-NJ), Bryan (D-NV), Nunn (D-GA), Johnston (D-LA), Boren (D-OK), and Shelby (D-AL) now (R-AL)) and 44 Republicans voting against). President Clinton signed the bill on August 10, 1993.
The government was able to raise additional revenue, which (when combined with the previous tax hikes and spending cuts passed by Congress and the Bush Administration in 1990 in the Budget Act of 1990) helped balance the budget and by the end of the 1990s began to reduce privately held public debt.[5]
 
It's really one of the few silver linings I see when Republicans win - that they'll attack the debt. And they ALWAYS let me down.

Trump sure did talk about it, though. They were going to reduce it "quickly." If I'm not mistaken, I think he actually said that they would eliminate it completely a few times.
 
Fauxcahontas said:
The only party that is ever concerned about deficits is the party that is out of power. You would think you know that.

Blowing through deficits and debt are a bipartisan effort. But, I understand your hackery
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That's wrong, and just proves my point, how easily they forget, least now we won't have to listen to the "principles" of conservatism, there aren't any
 
Thing1 said:
It's really one of the few silver linings I see when Republicans win - that they'll attack the debt. And they ALWAYS let me down.

Trump sure did talk about it, though. They were going to reduce it "quickly." If I'm not mistaken, I think he actually said that they would eliminate it completely a few times.
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They never had any interest in the debt, all meaningless rhetoric, least now we won't have to listen to it anymore
 
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