NFL player sits for US National Anthem but stands for Mexico's National Anthem.

Eagle Eye said:
You show disdain for my pride in my country! What have you ever done for your country? Seems like you lefties have only one loyalty and that is to failed liberalism. I pity people like you!
Click to expand...
You have that backwards. You show disdain for those who realize that there isn't much to be proud about in this country. We know that we're lucky to be Americans, but we're not so delusional that we feel the need to feign some sort of 'pride' a la N. Koreans that have no choice.

And if you're going to rely on your claim of service to country in order to garner 'attaboys', then you're truly a pathetic little child.
 
Althea said:
You have that backwards. You show disdain for those who realize that there isn't much to be proud about in this country. We know that we're lucky to be Americans, but we're not so delusional that we feel the need to feign some sort of 'pride' a la N. Koreans that have no choice.

And if you're going to rely on your claim of service to country in order to garner 'attaboys', then you're truly a pathetic little child.
Click to expand...

"Pride comes before a fall"!
 
Althea said:
So? Eagle sounds like someone who has never spent time around a teacher. Unless you are 60, then you weren't subjected to the draft. If you served, you did so by choice. Imagine not having that choice, and being dragged off to do the bidding of the US in it's wars of aggression?
Click to expand...

They should bring the draft back. Two years service minimum. Everyone, no exceptions. That would change quite a few misconceptions about the military if people had to actually serve in it.
 
Truth Detector said:
I have a better idea; they should move to Mexico!!! Moron.
Click to expand...

TD, it's harder to emigrate to Mexico because they have laws that they actually enforce regarding immigrants.


A prospective employer in Mexico must submit a work permit application to the appropriate labor authorities in Mexico. Upon acceptance of the complete application package the Institute of Immigration (INM) will analyze the case and issue a final resolution in 30 to 45 days. Once the application is approved the employee will have 90 days to 6 months (depending on each case) to appear before the Mexican Consulate with jurisdiction over his/ her place of residence to request the visa. The visa is issued in 3 to 4 days from the time the application is filed at the Consulate.

A foreign national employee may convert his or her immigration status from a visitor status to work status while remaining in Mexico. The employee can be present in Mexico while the work permit application is being processed; however, the employee will have to wait until the work permit application is filed at the INM to be able to start work. In these cases, once the work permit application is approved, the employee MUST make a personal appearance at the INM to obtain his/her FM-3 immigration document.

The major types of Mexican employment visa categories are as follows:

A) FM-2 Visa - For foreigners who have family ties to Mexico or have work in the country over 5 years;
B) FM-3 Visa - For foreigners who will be paid locally, import household goods or transfer to Mexico with family members.

A Mexican corporate sponsor is required to prepare a work permit application on behalf of the employee. The work permit application is filed with the Instituto Nacional de Migracion (“INM”) in Mexico. Once the work permit application is approved by the INM, the approval notice is sent to the foreigner so s/he may apply for his/her visa at the Consulate with jurisdiction over her/his place of usual residence.

To qualify as a sponsor of an FM-3 work permit, the basic requirements for the Mexican company and the assignee are as follows:

1. The Mexican entity must be duly registered in Mexico and show evidence that all corporate income taxes are paid;
2. The employee must possess relevant professional experience, along with a university-level degree. In lieu of a university degree, the assignee must possess considerable professional experience.

The sponsoring employer must present the following documents:

1. Copy of the Articles of incorporation and amendments
2. Proof of payment of quarterly taxes.
3. Copy of the legal representatives ID.
4. Letters of support signed by the legal representative.

Home Company Corporate Documents: The employee’s home company must execute a notarized letter confirming the employee’s proposed position title, job duties and location of work in Mexico. This letter must have an Apostille or Mexican legalization affixed.

a. An original university diploma or transcript, or notarized photocopy of the employee’s university degree/transcripts, with an Apostille affixed.
b. Copy of the employee’s and each family members full passports (all pages, including blank pages).
c. Current resume.
d. Confirmation of job title, job descriptions and salary details in Mexico.
e. Birth certificates with Apostilles for the foreigner and his family.
f. Marriage certificate with Apostille.

Validity of the Work Visa: The FM-3 work visa is generally valid for an initial period of one year, with yearly one-year extensions possible. The FM-3 can be renewed for a total validity of five years.

Documents Required to Apply for a Work Visa
Once the INM issues the approval notice, the employee and each accompanying family member generally must submit the following documents to the Mexican Consulate when applying for the visa:
1. Original passport valid for a minimum of 6 months.
2. Four (4) passport style photographs.
3. Application form.
4. Approval notice from the INM
5. Consular fee.


Registration for Residence Permit: Once the employee (and family) arrives in Mexico, the employee (and each family member) must register with the INM.

Timing Restriction to Register: The employee (and each family member) must appear at the INM to register within 30 days of the employee’s and each family member’s arrival into Mexico.

Penalties for Non-compliance: A fine equivalent to 100 times the minimum wage is levied against a contravening company. This type of infraction could be included in a record, hence slowing down the adjudication process for any future immigration application submitted by the company. A foreign national in violation of the terms of his authorized stay will be expelled from the country.

Spouse and Children: The accompanying spouse and children should be named on the application of the employee’s work permit application, as the INM will approve the employee and family members together. Once the work permit application is approved, the family’s visa applications can be filed simultaneously with the employee’s visa application.

Unmarried Partners (Opposite-Sex): Mexico may grant unmarried partners dependent visas based on the length of time the couple has been together and whether or not they have children.

Unmarried Partners (Same-Sex): Mexico will not grant a same sex partner a dependent visa.

Ability to Work: Spouses and dependents are not granted work authorization as a derivative status of the employee. Spouses and dependents must obtain their own work visas in order to secure employment in Mexico.


http://careerminer.infomine.com/foreigners-considering-working-in-mexico-what-you-need-to-know/
 
Althea said:
You have that backwards. You show disdain for those who realize that there isn't much to be proud about in this country. We know that we're lucky to be Americans, but we're not so delusional that we feel the need to feign some sort of 'pride' a la N. Koreans that have no choice.

And if you're going to rely on your claim of service to country in order to garner 'attaboys', then you're truly a pathetic little child.
Click to expand...

You are right I have total disdain for those who are lucky enough to be American but choose to disrepect the nation that gives them the freedom to show that disrespect. What an oximoron (lucky to be an American, but nothing about America to be proud of!). If there is nothing about this country to take pride in, then maybe you should find a country you can be proud of and move there. I hear Canada is nice.
 
tinfoil said:
How do you know? Perhaps he has lost a friend or two to police violence. Or perhaps he simply cares about the hundreds of fellow citizens who have been killed by the police.

Until this country takes some steps to stop corrupt police, you can bet on these protests continuing.
Click to expand...

Really? Do Mexican police enjoy a great reputation with regard to their treatment of minorities?

Yet he stood for their anthem. Curious.

I suspect that this whole charade is nothing but more crowd-sourced bitterness over the 2016 election.
 
Eagle Eye said:
You are right I have total disdain for those who are lucky enough to be American but choose to disrepect the nation that gives them the freedom to show that disrespect. What an oximoron (lucky to be an American, but nothing about America to be proud of!). If there is nothing about this country to take pride in, then maybe you should find a country you can be proud of and move there. I hear Canada is nice.
Click to expand...

Althea has unwittingly admitted what I believe to be the real leftist attitude toward our military. They loathe them.
 
Althea said:
So? Eagle sounds like someone who has never spent time around a teacher. Unless you are 60, then you weren't subjected to the draft. If you served, you did so by choice. Imagine not having that choice, and being dragged off to do the bidding of the US in it's wars of aggression?
Click to expand...

You are wrong on every level.
1. You act like a spoiled brat taking all the freedoms and advantages this country has to offer
Then you support others who give their country the finger!
2. I was subject to the draft!
3. I enlisted in 1965 and retired in 1989 so you are talking out your ass.
4. I saw combat in Vietnam and did my duty.
So in short I find you and people who think like you dispicable.
 
TOP said:
Let me try this again, and let's see if you can give a calm, civil adult response this time.
With all due respect, do you know what "my group" is? Unless you do, you don't know if "my group" has done "shit" or not.

You mention mentoring at an at-risk middle school, and community activity. That may be great, if you aren't telling the kids what you're posting here....

Let's see if you can take a guess at what "my side" is. And what my involvement in society an the community is. I'm curious, because you condemn without knowing...."shit"
How do you presume that I don't "give a fuck" about young lives? Let's match stories about these young lives, shall we? O'll let you go first:)
Click to expand...

What is there to 'guess?' I see the posts you thank and the side of issues that you take.

Additionally, your presumption to tell me about my side told me all I need to know about what side you are not on. Let me guess .. you're no progressive are you? Progressives don't attempt to attack black people with telling them they know more about black people than the black person does. The fact that you would still question me about what side you are on, not only tells me that you're not a progressive, but it also tells me that you're not an intellectual.

Would you consider your post to me to be 'civil?' I wouldn't. But you're surprised that uncivil is what you got back?

Let me repeat this so it will go away forever .. I have no interest in framing anything I ever say ever to the young minds I reach that is based on ANYTHING that is rolling around in your pompous-for-nothing head. :0) Surely you jest. What are you going to tell them .. JJ Watt should be celebrated, but Kaepernick, who put his career on the line .. FOR THEM .. and contributes money to programs THAT HELP THEM .. should be held in contempt because some white people said so .. same white people who vote for an all white political party .. same white people who see nothing wrong when police murder people of color.

:0) Dude, get the fuck outta here with that insanity. Those kids would run your stupid ass out the building. :0)

Now, if you still want to have a conversation, I suggest you put the pompous down. Recognize that I do not require your advice. Stick to issues and be prepared to back up what you claim.
 
Last edited:
Eagle Eye said:
You are right I have total disdain for those who are lucky enough to be American but choose to disrepect the nation that gives them the freedom to show that disrespect. What an oximoron (lucky to be an American, but nothing about America to be proud of!). If there is nothing about this country to take pride in, then maybe you should find a country you can be proud of and move there. I hear Canada is nice.
Click to expand...

Then you don't even know what being "American' is about .. hence your confusion.
 
blackascoal said:
Then you don't even know what being "American' is about .. hence your confusion.
Click to expand...

And you are a perfect example of the type of people I was talking about. For some strange reason you continue to think that we are stuck in the 50's when it comes to race. I truly pity you and any young people you come in contact with.
 
blackascoal said:
What is there to 'guess?' I see the posts you thank and the side of issues that you take.

Additionally, your presumption to tell me about my side told me all I need to know about what side you are not on. Let me guess .. you're no progressive are you? Progressives don't attempt to attack black people with telling them they know more about black people than the black person does. The fact that you would still question me about what side you are on, not only tells me that you're not a progressive, but it also tells me that you're not an intellectual.

Would you consider your post to me to be 'civil?' I wouldn't. But you're surprised that uncivil is what you got back?

Let me repeat this so it will go away forever .. I have no interest in framing anything I ever say ever to the young minds I reach that is based on ANYTHING that is rolling around in your pompous-for-nothing head. :0) Surely you jest. What are you going to tell them .. JJ Watt should be celebrated, but Kaepernick, who put his career on the line .. FOR THEM .. and contributes money to programs THAT HELP THEM .. should be held in contempt because some white people said so .. same white people who vote for an all white political party .. same white people who see nothing wrong when police murder people of color.

:0) Dude, get the fuck outta here with that insanity. Those kids would run your stupid ass out the building. :0)

Now, if you still want to have a conversation, I suggest you put the pompous down. Recognize that I do not require your advice. Stick to issues and be prepared to back up what you claim.
Click to expand...
Really? I'm a retired inner city HS (and MS:) teacher. 32 years:) (still very active-we're a family, after all-very proud family, as a matter of fact) with academics and coaching:)... Gee...how is it that they didn't run my stupid ass out of the building?
You're hilarious...
Kaepernick put nothing on the line, not for anyone. He should stick to donations, because he's no role model. In fact, our kids, especially our athletes, wouldn't think twice about taking a knee or sitting. Because that's not what you do when the anthem is played. We have all kinds of traditions. You'd be impressed, I'm sure.
We can talk about "at risk" kids anytime you decide that you're ready for a civil conversation.
How do you know I'm not black, btw.? Or, if I am white, How do you know if I don't have an interracial family? I can tell you one thing. Call anyone at our school "blackascoal" and that person would get their stupid ass beat;)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top