floridafan
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Yours is truly a POS post, probably just like you.
Flake on hot mic: GOP 'toast' if we become the party of Trump, Moore
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Yours is truly a POS post, probably just like you.
cawacko
Well-known member
I'm a piece of shit for asking why he doesn't like Jeff Flake? Ok.
floridafan
Verified User
Sorry, I was replying to noise
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
weren't we toast in 2008 and 2012 when we were the party of Flake?......
I'm not a Republican -although I'll wear that costume to support Trump..
given Flakes constant overt hostility towards Trump...
Republican Sen. Jeff Flake (Ariz.) was caught on a hot mic Saturday warning that the Republican Party will be "toast" if it becomes the party of President Trump and Roy Moore.At a tax-reform event in Arizona on Saturday, Flake was caught on a live microphone by ABC affiliate KNXV bashing the president in a conversation with Mesa Mayor John Giles, a friend of Flake's.
"If we become the party of Roy Moore and Donald Trump, we are toast," Flake is overheard saying.
Moore, a GOP candidate for the Senate in Alabama, has vowed to stay in the race despite mounting allegations of sexual misconduct involving teenage girls.
Giles, a moderate Republican who has been mayor of Mesa since 2014, is also heard on the recording making comments appearing to encourage Flake to mount a primary challenge against Trump in 2020.
"I am not throwing smoke at you, but you are the guy - just for fun, think about how much fun it would be - just to be the foil, you know, and point out what an idiot this guy is," Giles says, apparently referring to Trump. "Anyway, I hope you do it."
Flake has been a staunch critic of Trump, and announced in October that he would not seek reelection to his Senate seat in 2018.
In a speech on the Senate floor, he accused his party of abandoning its core principles.
"It is clear at this moment that a traditional conservative who believes in limited government and free markets, who is devoted to free trade, and who is pro-immigration, has a narrower and narrower path to nomination in the Republican party - the party that for so long has defined itself by belief in those things," Flake said during his speech.
"It is also clear to me for the moment we have given in or given up on those core principles in favor of the more viscerally satisfying anger and resentment," he added.
By John Bowden
Flake is RINO establishment scum GFYS faggot.
canceled.2021.3
Former Vice President
You didn’t answer the last question and don’t hide behind Trump.
Congress doesn’t need him to pass legislation. They are a failure and blaming Trump makes you never Trumpers feel good about opposing him while you miss a generational opportunity to get things done
When do you think an opportunity like this is going to come around to fundamentally dismantle liberalism?
You so called Reagan Republicans are blowing it and cutting off your noses to spite your face.
When you find your self in the minority and are bitching and moaning about liberalism, I will be there to say I told you so
evince
Truthmatters
dear fucking idiot,
your ideas are in the minority
fuck you very much
alice in liberal land
cawacko
Well-known member
The various factions republicans have in congress today were not as prevalent before and as such we can't do jack with the majorities we have
Take the freedom caucus. On paper I support what they do but their belief is essentially passing legislation is below them. As such no legislation that can actually get passed will be ideologically pure enough for them. So this is what we end up with
normally the president is head of his party. #neverTrumps are the aberration.
Populism took over your house of moralism and globalism expounded by the Bushes
cawacko
Well-known member
You're right, normally the President is head of the party. But Trump isn't a Republican. The Republican Party was his vehicle to the White House. So this is a whole different paradigm
cawacko
Well-known member
And I was talking about Congress there
what IS a Republican? I asked you this before. At least for now the Republican majority does vote with Trump.
#NeverTrumps are a distinct but powerful minority in your party
cawacko
Well-known member
Different people will offer different answers of course but to me Republicans believe in the role of the individual and their control over their actions in society. A federalism form of government with local control being most important because it is closest to the people as opposed to an all powerful central gov't. I would throw in market liberalism as well.
One can obviously go much deeper into this.
evince
Truthmatters
short bus school of economics ?
it has never worked in history
Every time its tried it gets annouced that we are all Keynseans now
and then a year later you idiots forget again
canceled.2021.3
Former Vice President
Trump has arguably been a more conservative President than both Bushes and as conservative as Reagan
You can’t see it because you are easily triggered by mean tweets
cawacko
Well-known member
That kool aid must taste good if you are comparing him to Reagan
[FONT=&]Republican Sen. Jeff Flake (Ariz.) was caught on a hot mic Saturday warning that the Republican Party will be "toast" if it becomes the party of President Trump and Roy Moore.[/FONT][FONT=&]At a tax-reform event in Arizona on Saturday, Flake was caught on a live microphone by ABC affiliate KNXV bashing the president in a conversation with Mesa Mayor John Giles, a friend of Flake's.
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[FONT=&]"If we become the party of Roy Moore and Donald Trump, we are toast," Flake is overheard saying.
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[FONT=&]Moore, a GOP candidate for the Senate in Alabama, has vowed to stay in the race despite mounting allegations of sexual misconduct involving teenage girls.
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[FONT=&]Giles, a moderate Republican who has been mayor of Mesa since 2014, is also heard on the recording making comments appearing to encourage Flake to mount a primary challenge against Trump in 2020.
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[FONT=&]"I am not throwing smoke at you, but you are the guy - just for fun, think about how much fun it would be - just to be the foil, you know, and point out what an idiot this guy is," Giles says, apparently referring to Trump. "Anyway, I hope you do it."
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[FONT=&]Flake has been a staunch critic of Trump, and announced in October that he would not seek reelection to his Senate seat in 2018.
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[FONT=&]In a speech on the Senate floor, he accused his party of abandoning its core principles.
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[FONT=&]"It is clear at this moment that a traditional conservative who believes in limited government and free markets, who is devoted to free trade, and who is pro-immigration, has a narrower and narrower path to nomination in the Republican party - the party that for so long has defined itself by belief in those things," Flake said during his speech.
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[FONT=&]"It is also clear to me for the moment we have given in or given up on those core principles in favor of the more viscerally satisfying anger and resentment," he added.
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By John Bowden
I plan on spending the foreseeable future painting the Republican party as the party of Drumpf, Roy Moore, George Dumbya Bush, and Sarah Palin...their erstwhile heroes!
canceled.2021.3
Former Vice President
He is no way near as articulate as Reagan.
I am merely looking at results of what he is trying to do substantively.
You are like a liberal, all symbolism over substance. You could be getting your way policy wise but you have this naive little attitude that it somehow has to be done a certain way. Someone convinced you that YOU have to be the bigger man. When it comes to politics fuck that.
Reagan is a political icon, but he made mistakes. The biggest being amnesty.
Reagan projected strength to our enemies and so does Trump.
You hide behind living in Commiefornia, but the truth of the matter is that when it comes to politics you are no different than McCunteel and Ryan. You like to talk about it but not do anything. Politically you are as big a pussy as they are.
Let me ask you, would you have preferred Hillary over Trump?
Do you believe in your heart of hearts that the ONLY reason McCuntell and Ryan haven’t repealed Obamacare is because of Trump? That id ANY of the other 15 GOP candidates had won they would have done it?
Same for defunding plannned Parenthood?
I think you are just so used to being Charlie Brown politically you don’t know what winning is like