Abortion thought experiment

evince said:
why do you not answer?
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I went to the toilet to have a good Hillary......

I'm agnostic, so this has nothing to with religion or abortion or God....The answer is yes, science tells me, the women and the fertilized egg are both human beings...the only difference is their age....
their stages of life....no different than that of a new born babe and and geriatric person....just as the fertilized egg will become a new born and new born will become a old man
or women....its the life cycle in action....the labels you put on these stages of life are irrelevant....
 
Covfefe said:
if you were only interested in the soul then leave judgement to your God who is the arbitrator of such matters, and let the matters of the flesh be an individual choice because God has given free will according to your Christian beliefs.
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The soul is alive in earthly life and lives on forever in either heaven with the Lord or forever in hell without the Lord. We are not to commit murder, ie take a life. God is the author of life (and death). He can give it and he can take it away.
He's given us the ability to choose but, because of his mercy he also gave us the answer key.....God said, "Choose life". :)
 
here is one of the main problems with organized religion



people dont think their belief completely through

they accept a package someone else thought through


I have massive respect for religious people who can debate these ideas without feeling like they are being threatened.


that threatened reaction is proof they dont even KNOW their own religious beliefs.


they never thought them through,


they are not truely able to teach about their own religion



being an anthiest and wanting to discuss religion means you have to have had these exploration of the mind questions done already


its NOT the easy way out


it was just the only path that met the thought experiment tests in my mind.

I got to atheism through lots and lots of thinking this stuff over.

not because my mother joined a certian church when I was 3.



BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU WANT TO BELIEVE


dont organize


jesus would be proud of you using only your heart to interpet his words.


In your belief it was where he spoke from.


I LOVE JESUS!


I LOVE BUDAH!


I LOVE the great thinkers

they all have things to teach us


what ever you believe you have a heart.


try using it as your guide instead of hate
 
Stretch said:
The soul is alive in earthly life and lives on forever in either heaven with the Lord or forever in hell without the Lord. We are not to commit murder, ie take a life. God is the author of life (and death). He can give it and he can take it away.
He's given us the ability to choose but, because of his mercy he also gave us the answer key.....God said, "Choose life". :)
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I’m happy you believe, I find much about your religion illogical and full of contradictions.
 
NOVA said:
I went to the toilet to have a good Hillary......

I'm agnostic, so this has nothing to with religion or abortion or God....The answer is yes, science tells me, the women and the fertilized egg are both human beings...the only difference is their age....
their stages of life....no different than that of a new born babe and and geriatric person....just as the fertilized egg will become a new born and new born will become a old man
or women....its the life cycle in action....the labels you put on these stages of life are irrelevant....
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how did you answer the OPs question then
 
Thing1 said:
This. Questions of the soul and anything related to religion have no place at all in the abortion debate.

If your religion informs your views on the topic, it's easy enough for you to act according to that. But for yourself, and not dictate to others based on that.
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YOU are the one asking questions of ME! Why would I say "Ask God" if was ME trying to force MY opinions? If YOU (who does not even believe in God) are asking ME questions regarding God's Word what better answer can I give but "Ask God"?
I'm not forcing my 'opinions' here. My little 'opinions' are worthless.
Therefore........
If I give you Biblically based answers and you disagree with THOSE.....logic dictates that your argument is with the God that you don't believe in.
So..........
Either stop asking Godly questions or keep your conversations going on Godly topics with others who also do not believe in God.
LOGICAL, very simple :)
 
evince said:
how did you answer the OPs question then
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I answered it in post 109....I missed CFM's post 38 which says the same thing it did....its was a stupid premise that can't be answered with a simple yes or no....

Can you answer this, "do you still molest little children" with a simple yes or no ?
 
Stretch said:
We're in God's land anywhere. He made it all.
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so that means you are allowed to force me and others to live under the tennents of your religion as YOU interpet them?



what if all the other religions in America did the same?
 
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