blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Cool .. and a good possibility once I get through this busy season for my company.
I also like to win. :0)
bernie was out for himself not the Democratic party
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Cool .. and a good possibility once I get through this busy season for my company.
I also like to win. :0)
sure.like i said it's an open invite..no hurries.
who was that guy we knew on DCJ?
the ex-army semi-psycho who used to purposely keep Jehovah's Witness waiting in his kitchen to kill time?
we used to play some good games. Villifier of Zombies! that was it
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
he was a psycho, but yes he was fun ( at times). a little bit went a long way
evince
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there is no democrat party assmite
i think democrats need to come together and draft a resolution permanently barring Bernie from the party. You need to make this happen sister Evince!
Getin the ring
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Sanders could have and maybe would have beat Trump.
Which says a lot about our state of politics. The man is a socialist. To think this great country would elect a president so far removed from what we are and have been about since our inception is scary.
Trump was a Godsend, I'll say that again.
If either Hillary or Bernie had gotten in this great country may have never recovered from the continuation of Obama's policies and worse for another 8 years. We were toast.
And this falls squarely on the backs of the Democrats, they offered no alternative to the liar and the socialist.
At least the Republicans rolled out 16 people, all different, all individual in their approaches to solving some very real problems
America spoke
MAGA
Which says a lot about our state of politics. The man is a socialist. To think this great country would elect a president so far removed from what we are and have been about since our inception is scary.
Trump was a Godsend, I'll say that again.
If either Hillary or Bernie had gotten in this great country may have never recovered from the continuation of Obama's policies and worse for another 8 years. We were toast.
And this falls squarely on the backs of the Democrats, they offered no alternative to the liar and the socialist.
At least the Republicans rolled out 16 people, all different, all individual in their approaches to solving some very real problems
America spoke
MAGA
evince
Truthmatters
see the hate for women who speak their mind
these men ( and I use the word lightly) hate women
they like general Kelly wish they could place them back on that pretend pedistal they used to talk about
that meant a husband cant rape a wife and and men could slap their wives for "getting out of line"
women who defy their percieved power where to be made into unwilling prostitutes.
sex slaves
that is how they see women
they want to make sure they TRASH Hilary in any way possible.
they dont want those little girls to think high office is within their reach.
so any woman who is not submissive
is to be forced into selling their bodies.
Imagine how their daughters feel about that
evince
Truthmatters
sanders woupd have NEVER won the election
it was rigged for trump and sanders would have faced an avalanche of socialist memes
Hilary was lied about non stop
they would have had bernies own words to trash him non stop
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Ignore the stupid.
evince
Truthmatters
no fight the stupid
they think it gets to me
in fact it gets to who they are
tiny dick dangles dripping rancid shit
they hated their mothers
they hated their grandmothers
they hate their sisters
they hate their daughters
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I'm good with that too my friend. :0)
I agree. I might make a comment about something that looks like it's not well-informed, but I'm not saying how well-informed you are on other things - I have no idea and give you the benefit of the doubt as you said you do.
I agree Bernie could have done better, but I think you don't give him enough credit in a couple of ways. One is not recognizing the efforts he DID make. Another is not appreciating the higher challenges he faced, in appealing to a group who did not know him but knew Hillary and had largely already been recruited to support her, and if nothing else were not very interested in supporting an unknown independent against the assumed-nominee Clinton. Why bur those bridges?
And finally, there's the issue I alluded to about reasons for Bernie not to highlight those issues in his campaign in order to win the votes of many on other issues, who might not be as supportive of the issues about black people. It's a little like how Republicans are utterly committed to things like the Koch brothers' agenda, but they don't talk much about that campaigning because it would mostly lose them votes. Bernie said more than enough to make it clear he strongly supported the right positions on black issues.
There's a big difference between allowing someone not technically in the party who is running from the LEFT of it and someone who runs to the RIGHT of it. You ignored the points I made about how Bernie was already a longtime leader within the Democratic Party - caucusing with them, co-founding their biggest caucus.
Republicans DID do just that with trump, who previously donated a lot to Democrats, including Clintons, who had a history of things like being pro-choice, who had no experience in the party except for being a birther against Obama, and you will find no shortage of Republicans who opposed him as a phony Republican - some even saying he was a Clinton-friendly Democrat only pretending to be a Republican. But ya, as the utterly corrupt party they are, they'll try to avoid that.
Thing is, they have a hard time finding winning candidates anymore, and so they take what they can get.
I think it's because while he closely aligns with Democrats, he also takes issue with the level of corporate money and influence in the party and wants to keep some distance from that. He gets 25% of the REPUBLICAN vote in Vermont - what Democratic member of Congress can say that? It gives him a big edge in winning the presidency, IF the party had the sense to nominate him.
As I said before, I'd be strongly against that if he were to the right of the party - but he's not, he's to the left.
The only 'serious problem with the party' is that they aren't attracting others as good as Bernie. I strongly support the party's polices, but wish we had stronger politicians (the Republican Party is even worse at this though - which helped trump win. Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, really?)
Just today I was noting that sadly, Teddy Roosevelt did a better job speaking for progressive values than any politician does today, including Bernie. And I have mixed feelings about Teddy.
Party of that is that the billions of dollars that pour into promoting the right - the think tank propaganda, and the media dedicated to them, the Rush's and Hannity's and countless more - but it's more than that. Bernie has been the most effective spokesman for progressive and Democratic values in my opinion, resulting in his being the the most likes candidate while Hillary and trump were the two most disliked.
I strongly support Bernie for 2020 if he wants to run but like you I also want us to try to get better younger leader also.
Yes, they would, and they'd have lost because they'd have the most disliked candidate in modern history against the most liked, rather than the second least liked - which is why Bernie always beat trump in polls more than Hillary, even though he was less known - and people liked Bernie the more then got to know him, unlike Hillary.
trump won with a con job to pretend to be a populist and on the side of voters. He promised to raise taxes on the rich (lie) and 'drain the swamp' (lie) and so on, and it only worked because so many voters didn't like Hillary. Bernie would have DESTROYED trump on all of those issues and given people an honest choice, and very likely destroyed trump in the election. Most of the people who voted for Hillary would pick Bernie over trump - but many who voted against Hillary would pick Bernie over trump.
Bernie is aligned with traditional American values - it's the modern right-wing politics that have taken over that are radical and un-American.