ISIS Fighters Are Not Flooding Back Home to Wreak Havoc as Feared

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As recently as a year ago, United States and other Western counterterrorism officials feared that a major surge of Islamic State fighters would return home to Europe and North Africa to commit mayhem after being driven out of their strongholds in Mosul, Iraq, and Raqqa, Syria.

Now, those cities have fallen to American-backed forces, but the number of combat-hardened returnees has been much smaller than anticipated, if still worrisome, counterterrorism officials say. That is in part because the Trump administration intensified its focus on preventing fighters from seeping out of those cities, https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/02/...close-to-trapping-isis-holdouts-in-raqqa.html

and more militants fought to the death than expected. Hundreds also surrendered in Raqqa, and
ssome probably escaped to new battlegrounds in Libya or the Philippines.
“We’re not seeing a lot of flow out of the core caliphate because most of those people are dead now,” Lt. Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., the director of the Pentagon’s Joint Staff, said last week. “Some of them are going to go to ground.”

Some 40,000 fighters from more than 120 countries poured into the battles in Syria and Iraq over the past four years, American officials say. Of the more than 5,000 Europeans who joined those ranks, as many as 1,500 have returned home, including many women and children, and most of the rest are dead or still fighting, according to Gilles de Kerchove, the European Union’s top counterterrorism official.

To be sure, the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, still poses a threat to Western countries, perhaps chiefly in the form of militants who are inspired or enabled by the group to attack at home, as evidenced by the recent attacks in Britain and Barcelona, officials say.


But a combination of factors has suppressed the flow of militants returning from war zones. Many died after allied and local forces cut off most escape routes from Raqqa and Mosul. Since the terrorist attacks in Paris in 2015 and Brussels last year, European nations have tightened border security and increased surveillance. Others are believed to be bottled up in third countries like Turkey.

As it becomes harder for the Islamic State to plan attacks from Iraq and Syria, some plotters may have also moved to the Philippines or to Libya. The bomber who killed 22 people at a pop concert in Manchester, England, in May had met in Libya with members of an Islamic State unit linked to the Paris attacks, according to current and retired intelligence officials.

We’re worried as the campaign in eastern Syria and Iraq winds down, we’ll continue to see fighters move into” Libya and northern Africa, Mike Pompeo, the C.I.A. director, said at a security conference at the University of Texas this month.

Several American and European officials also voiced concern about Turkey, a country that has the trappings of a modern state but where the Islamic State has been allowed to operate almost unchecked, until recently.

even as Turkish authorities have increased security along their border with Syria, the center of gravity of foreign fighters is shifting to Turkish cities like Sanliurfa and Gaziantep, where the Islamic State has carried out executions of Syrian activists and journalists with what appears to be impunity.

If the Islamic State fighters regroup in Turkey, they can return in small groups to Europe or elsewhere via the old refugee route, which is less fluid than it was but still penetrable. A Belgian was recently arrested in Turkey, suspected of plotting a terrorist attack there, after spending years in Syria.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/22/us/politics/fewer-isis-fighters-returning-home.html
 
President Donald Trump is portraying the Islamic State group's ouster from its Syrian stronghold as a milestone in the U.S. fight against terrorism and a step toward a political transition and lasting peace in Syria.

Kurdish-led forces on Friday declared victory in Raqqa, the extremists' self-declared capital, where they had terrorized the population for four years.

Trump called it "a critical breakthrough in our worldwide campaign to defeat ISIS and its wicked ideology" and said "the end of the ISIS caliphate is in sight."

He cited his efforts to empower U.S. military forces on the ground, and repeated his claim that more had been done to defeat the group in recent months "than in the past several years."

The U.S. "will soon transition into a new phase" in Syria, Trump said, and offer support to local security forces. He said the U.S. will back diplomatic negotiations to end the violence, allow refugees to return safely home, and "yield a political transition that honors the will of the Syrian people."

There is no indication, however, that a political transition will come any time soon.

U.N.-led talks have shown no serious signs of picking up steam. The ouster of IS forces from Raqqa and other parts of Syria has overlapped with the increased influence of Iran and Russia in the country and a stronger hand for Assad, dimming prospects even further for the type of political solution the U.S. has long wanted to see.

Most Raqqa residents fled long ago and are now scattered across refugee camps or abroad, and there is little for them to return to. The once vibrant metropolis on the Euphrates River has largely been reduced to rubble and is littered with land mines and booby traps.

So far, the Trump administration has shown little appetite for longer-term engagement or involvement in nation-building in Iraq and Syria. While it will work to clear Raqqa of mines and restore basic services like water and electricity, Washington has made it evidence that it has no intention of playing the leading role in rebuilding the city.

National security officials, including CIA director Mike Pompeo, have warned that just because IS has been evicted from Raqqa, it doesn't mean the group won't be able to carry out attacks against the United State.

The U.S. military this past week estimated that 6,500 IS fighters remain in eastern Syria and western Iraq, many concentrated along the Euphrates River valley straddling the border. Those fighters pose an insurgent threat in both countries and an ideological threat globally.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-celebrates-defeat-raqqa-170908493--politics.html
 
One of our tory ministers wants to murder them all over there, as his models ended an earlier crusade by murdering everyone in Jerusalem. Shall we send him over?
 
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Isn't it a bit early
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ISIS has plenty of sleeper agents in the USA, ready to destroy our economy, turn our people against one another, and erase our history.

They are called DEMOCRATS.
 
ISIS as a "caliphate" (viable state) is finished.
It will go back to an insurgency in the ME (AQIR) but many are going to Libya and Africa

Hasn't some of the European nations implied that it wouldn't bother them if any foreign fighters from their country never made it out of Syria?

The bigger question becomes what happens to the Kurd army who were the US backed forces in Syria? Syria doesn't want them in Syria, Iraq doesn't want them in Iraq, Iran doesn't want them in Iran, and Turkey doesn't want them in Turkey, but they were our forces on the ground in the conflict.

If we just fade our presence in the region, what does our policy toward the Kurds become? There already has been conflict in Iraq and Syria between the respective Government forces and the Kurds
 
Can't refute it, can you, anchovies? Orders from the ISIS command?

Oh, then to use one of your lame deflections, show us where ISIS has sleeper cells made up of Democrats in the United States

It's no wonder you have to ban posters, it's the only way you can shovel this crap without getting embarassed
 
Oh, then to use one of your lame deflections, show us where ISIS has sleeper cells made up of Democrats in the United States It's no wonder you have to ban posters, it's the only way you can shovel this crap without getting embarassed

You're not banned from this thread, are you anchovies? And here I am, pointing out the support that DEMOCRATS give ISIS by attempting to destroy our economy, turn our people against one another, and erase our history.

Do you deny the charges, anchovies?
 
Hasn't some of the European nations implied that it wouldn't bother them if any foreign fighters from their country never made it out of Syria?

The bigger question becomes what happens to the Kurd army who were the US backed forces in Syria? Syria doesn't want them in Syria, Iraq doesn't want them in Iraq, Iran doesn't want them in Iran, and Turkey doesn't want them in Turkey, but they were our forces on the ground in the conflict.

If we just fade our presence in the region, what does our policy toward the Kurds become? There already has been conflict in Iraq and Syria between the respective Government forces and the Kurds

rumpf doesn't seem willing to help them or anyone but himself & his crook friends so I think they will be abandon again left to the tender mercies of the scum that surrounds them.....
 
Trump and his generals have a plan, it is working as far as we can tell.
Still early but at least someone actually has a plan now

Obama called ISIS the 'JV", and they flourished and spread. DEMOCRATS loved and defended Obama.

Trump went after ISIS and their territory shrank drastically. DEMOCRATS hate and attack Trump.

DEMOCRATS are the tools of ISIS.
 
You're not banned from this thread, are you anchovies? And here I am, pointing out the support that DEMOCRATS give ISIS by attempting to destroy our economy, turn our people against one another, and erase our history.

Do you deny the charges, anchovies?

Oh, oh, now the ISIS sleeper cells aren't made up of Democrats but the Democrats are helping ISIS, got it, must be InfoWars didn't include any documentation for emjoi's first claim

And the only reason you didn't ban posters here is because it ain't your topic post, otherwise you'd talking to yourself responding to your own thread

The rest of your exchange is talk radio rhetoric
 
rumpf doesn't seem willing to help them or anyone but himself & his crook friends so I think they will be abandon again left to the tender mercies of the scum that surrounds them.....

You think the people of the Middle East are "scum", silly Billy?

Telling.

Very telling.
 
What plan is that?? The O' "knock the hell out of um" plan?? The one that just got men killed??

Men and women die in war, silly Billy. The ones who enlist know that, and they accept the risk. So do their families.

Why are you denigrating the intelligence of our military men and women and Gold Star families, silly Billy?
 
Oh, oh, now the ISIS sleeper cells aren't made up of Democrats but the Democrats are helping ISIS, got it, must be InfoWars didn't include any documentation for emjoi's first claim And the only reason you didn't ban posters here is because it ain't your topic post, otherwise you'd talking to yourself responding to your own thread The rest of your exchange is talk radio rhetoric

I'm perfectly willing to believe that ISIS regards you and your fellow DEMOCRATS on JPP as too weak and unsound to trust as fully-fledged fighters, anchovies.

They aren't stupid, after all.

Just because you act as their unwitting tool doesn't mean that there aren't craftier DEMOCRATS than you at the highest levels of the Jackass Party, does it, anchovies?
 
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