Do soldiers fight for a flag, or what it represents?

Sailor said:
No. He has confused the term running to Canada with dodging the draft. What do you expect from a simpleton?
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Ahoy, Sailor Boi.

I see. He did confide to the forum that he derives much of his "knowledge" from comic books and fictional TV programs, so perhaps he was just confused.
 
Real McCoy said:
Every man and woman who wears the uniform of the US military swears an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. The flag is a symbol of this great nation so yes they fight for what the flag represents.
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Gee...I wonder what black combat soldiers in WW2 were fighting for? The right to be treated like a second or third class citizen when they returned home? Because this country still had 'whites only' stores, restaurants, bathrooms, etc.
 
Althea said:
Gee...I wonder what black combat soldiers in WW2 were fighting for? The right to be treated like a second or third class citizen when they returned home? Because this country still had 'whites only' stores, restaurants, bathrooms, etc.
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Defending their home. America was still better by far than Nazi Germany or Japan.
 
Sailor said:
Defending their home. America was still better by far than Nazi Germany or Japan.
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You're kidding, right? This is an either or? They were defending the rights of whites to deny black people the same rights. There's no other way to spin it.
 
noise said:
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What is that suppose to mean??
 
Cypress said:
Never having been under a hailstorm of enemy fire myself, I am not in a position to say.

I always got the impression from my great-Uncle, who was at the Battle of the Bulge, that he was fighting for his friends, his mates who in the foxholes with him. I believe to him, the job was to protect his friends and to defeat Hitler so they could all get back home in one piece. I don't know if they were thinking about flags or constitutions foremost in their minds.

I also have a letter from a distant great uncle on my mother's side of the family from the civil war. Written to his wife, circa 1864. He was serving in a Pennsylvania regiment. You would be amazed at how articulate and thoughtful your average Union soldier could be. His writing seems to make it clear he felt their mission was to end slavery in the southern states. Both as a moral, and practical imperative. Gripping stuff, man!
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Yes. This imaginary 'the defend our freedoms' nonsense is just a fabrication.

When they're taking enemy fire, they're fighting to keep themselves, and the guys/gals next to them alive.

They're not thinking about the fact that they're dying for our war for oil.
 
Althea said:
You're kidding, right? This is an either or? They were defending the rights of whites to deny black people the same rights. There's no other way to spin it.
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Kidding? What makes you think they would not want to defend their families like everyone else? Pride in doing so. Not a real hard thing to understand.
 
Cypress said:
I always got the impression from my great-Uncle, who was at the Battle of the Bulge, that he was fighting for his friends, his mates who in the foxholes with him. I believe to him, the job was to protect his friends and to defeat Hitler so they could all get back home in one piece. I don't know if they were thinking about flags or constitutions foremost in their minds. I also have a letter from a distant great uncle on my mother's side of the family from the civil war. Written to his wife, circa 1864. He was serving in a Pennsylvania regiment. You would be amazed at how articulate and thoughtful your average Union soldier could be. His writing seems to make it clear he felt their mission was to end slavery in the southern states. Both as a moral, and practical imperative. Gripping stuff, man!
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Cool story, bro.

Anecdotal evidence like this is just so convincing.
 
Sailor said:
He/she/it. It all fits.
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Be careful if you put into a Canadian port.

Reports say that Canada now criminalizes inappropriate gender references.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/16/canada-passes-law-criminalizing-use-of-wrong-gender-pronouns/

You could find yourself in stormy seas if Amadoofus prefers to be called "she" and you don't comply.
 
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