huge insect die off

cawacko said:
Since this is a political board and Desh was trying to make a political point does politics play any role here? (and I don't just mean d's vs r's) Is there legislation that would force a change or is it more an industry thing? (please excuse my ignorance on the topic, this is waaaaaaay over my head)
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Well it could become a serious political issue if monoculture agricultural methods jeopardize our food supply. Given the vast investment in our current system an attempt to promote change would get political real quick.
 
who do you racists think you are proving something to?


poor assholes actually think that gets them something
 
Thing1 said:
To me, it all traces back to the same m.o. We have to make a decision as a species to develop and promote policies that are consistent with long-term sustainability. We have to have a symbiotic relationship w/ the planet, and not a parasitic one.

It's amazing to me that many do not have a broader view on this. The damage we have done since the Industrial Revolution is so obvious and measurable - you don't have to be a genius to see that our practices are clearly not sustainable even for the short-term, much less for generations. It has been such a short period of time in the scheme of things.
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Fine but what are the solutions that are sustainable and won’t completely disrupt current socioeconomic systems in a devastating manner?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Fine but what are the solutions that are sustainable and won’t completely disrupt current socioeconomic systems in a devastating manner?
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Well, that's the rub. I don't have 'em. But I don't believe that they are non-existent.

It doesn't HAVE to be immediate, disruptive change. I'm very aware of the job implications, and don't support anything that puts people out of work without some sort of viable transitional plan.

It has to start with simply making it a priority, on every level - for energy use, for development, for agriculture, for preserving habitat. Sustainability has to be the governing philosophy, and everything else can follow - including reasonable & well-planned change. Right now, it is not a governing philosophy or even a high priority. We run things in a very haphazard manner; for the most part, there is either no consideration given to long-term impact, or it is token.
 
Superfreak said:
curious as to your take on DDT... I know this is within the realm of your field of expertise. Was the banning of DDT good or bad for us?
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Tough question actually. For the environment and ecosystems as a whole it’s a very good thing but at the time it was implemented it’s drawback was that other methods of controlling insect disease vectors like mosquitoes had to be utilized to protect human health from malaria and yellow fever. Affective alternatives were found that are not bioaccumulative toxins like DDT so certainly now such a ban is certainly warranted.
 
Quetzalcoatl said:
More dead Boomers the better. It's the greatest gift they can give.

Well, the greatest gift they could give is not being born in the first place, but seeing as how they've miserably failed in that endeavor they should attempt to remedy the situation with their death. Only through death may their sins be cleansed from this world.
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Some day a younger generation will be saying the same thing about yours. Hell, they are probably wishing it now.
 
Quetzalcoatl said:
More dead Boomers the better. It's the greatest gift they can give.

Well, the greatest gift they could give is not being born in the first place, but seeing as how they've miserably failed in that endeavor they should attempt to remedy the situation with their death. Only through death may their sins be cleansed from this world.
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You should kill your parents then. :good4u:
 
Corazón said:
Oh and polar bear numbers are increasing, not decreasing!

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There was an article about a colony of penguins that had all of this years chicks die off, except for 2; because there was so much ice that they had to go farther to be able to find food.
 
Corazón said:
There many reasons, certainly monoculture and intensive farming, the overuse of insecticides and nitrogen fertilisers. I think that the rise of the urban environment has a big part to play as well. Basically there are too many people in the world and that is only going to get worse, it's predicted that there will be nearly 10 billion people by 2050.

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SOYLENT GREEN
 
Thing1 said:
To me, it all traces back to the same m.o. We have to make a decision as a species to develop and promote policies that are consistent with long-term sustainability. We have to have a symbiotic relationship w/ the planet, and not a parasitic one.

It's amazing to me that many do not have a broader view on this. The damage we have done since the Industrial Revolution is so obvious and measurable - you don't have to be a genius to see that our practices are clearly not sustainable even for the short-term, much less for generations. It has been such a short period of time in the scheme of things.
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BS

The earth could care less if we are here or not; because we are parasites and if and when we finally pass, the earth will continue on.
 
Thing1 said:
Yeah, but you're working the border and abortion clinics, right? Because you can't care about those issues unless you have dedicated your own life to them.
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Well if you feel you are using too much fossil fuels you can most assuredly do something. But thanks for admitting you don’t want to really alter your life
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Tough question actually. For the environment and ecosystems as a whole it’s a very good thing but at the time it was implemented it’s drawback was that other methods of controlling insect disease vectors like mosquitoes had to be utilized to protect human health from malaria and yellow fever. Affective alternatives were found that are not bioaccumulative toxins like DDT so certainly now such a ban is certainly warranted.
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Having been to Uganda each of the past three years, I don't think there is any alternative that has been found. Case after case of malaria and many yellow fever as well. That was the point of my question. Not sure how it is beneficial to the environment when you have hundreds of strains of malaria that cause massive damage to animals and humans alike (not every strain affects every species... I think it less than ten that affect humans). DDT was helping control malaria.
 
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