Tax reform is needed

I will simplify this for Democrats and the liberal coolaid drinkers following them like sheep with these ridiculous claims of the "rich" benefitting and therefore it's bad.

If middle class America does not get the extra 3 to 4 thousand in our pockets next April that we will be getting when this plan passes. You will be called out on it and you will pay the political price.

You nut-jobs on this forum are just shooting yourselves in the foot so you can yell "BAD RICH PEOPLE" again.
 
Just a bit confused over your never ending lies.
Did Obama draft spending legislation?
Did Obama pass spending legislation?
Or was that "honor" reserved for republicans, asshole?
 
This plan will never pass- thats never. Trump is on a hot streak, not a single piece of policy legislation in 9 months. The only President to hold that "honor" in our lifetime.
 
Thing1 said:
You realize that there is a lot of other stuff that contributes to the debt, right?

Current estimates are that Trump will add $5.5 trillion in 4 years.

And wasn't he going to eliminate it or something? I was gonna be so easy...
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BS, bull $HIT

so if the estimate on the tax plan is 2 trillion over 10 years,

then what does the other phantom 5.5 trillion have to do with this argument? you started a thread on the tax reform impact.
You want to add in defense spending? something else? and since you refuse to exercise my stfu advice, do tell where the 5.5 trillion figure comes from
 
Thing1 said:
Without a doubt.

But Trump's plan IS a plan for the rich. Every single surrogate I have seen has been confronted about that, and the answer is the same: well, the middle class will see a reduction, too.

But the rich get 80% of the benefit. 80%. The thinking is clearly that if they throw the middle class a bone, they'll ignore a massive redistribution geared to the top earners.

Oh - and some aren't even earners. Eliminating the estate tax? My goodness. Trump wants to help create a new aristocracy.
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i still see no evidence of this..the basic concept is to slightly reduce the upper brackets, but at the same time decrease deductions - so its's tax neutral, or not so much of a supply side scheme

Middle class get a bump in the standard deduction - again if you itemize it might hurt you.

The ultimate goal is SIMPLIFICATION-not just cuts
 
floridafan said:
Just a bit confused over your never ending lies.
Did Obama draft spending legislation?
Did Obama pass spending legislation?
Or was that "honor" reserved for republicans, asshole?
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I didn't expect you to admit your butt buddy did anything wrong, but I also didn't expect you to be here opining on anything until the stupid pills wore off.
 
Getin the ring said:
BS, bull $HIT

so if the estimate on the tax plan is 2 trillion over 10 years,

then what does the other phantom 5.5 trillion have to do with this argument? you started a thread on the tax reform impact.
You want to add in defense spending? something else? and since you refuse to exercise my stfu advice, do tell where the 5.5 trillion figure comes from
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Wow - do you really not understand that there are things like interest on the current debt, increased military spending & other expenditures that add to the debt every year?
 
Getin the ring said:
I will simplify this for Democrats and the liberal coolaid drinkers following them like sheep with these ridiculous claims of the "rich" benefitting and therefore it's bad.

If middle class America does not get the extra 3 to 4 thousand in our pockets next April that we will be getting when this plan passes. You will be called out on it and you will pay the political price.

You nut-jobs on this forum are just shooting yourselves in the foot so you can yell "BAD RICH PEOPLE" again.
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"Next April?" They haven't even introduced any detailed proposal anywhere with 32 Congressional working days left in the calendar and you think a tax change will go into effect next April?"

Even if lightning struck and they did pass something it still wouldn't take effect next April
 
anatta said:
i still see no evidence of this..the basic concept is to slightly reduce the upper brackets, but at the same time decrease deductions - so its's tax neutral, or not so much of a supply side scheme

Middle class get a bump in the standard deduction - again if you itemize it might hurt you.

The ultimate goal is SIMPLIFICATION-not just cuts
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it's even more simple than that, but to try and reach these loons is nearly impossible.
The Standard deduction goes up by 12k and you are in a 25% tax bracket (middle class bracket) that's 3 thousand in your pocket, it's math.

And if you itemize more than 24 thousand dollars worth (the new standard deduction) then you are probably not middle class, you are the upper that these clowns are complaining about
 
Getin the ring said:
it's even more simple than that, but to try and reach these loons is nearly impossible.
The Standard deduction goes up by 12k and you are in a 25% tax bracket (middle class bracket) that's 3 thousand in your pocket, it's math.

And if you itemize more than 24 thousand dollars worth (the new standard deduction) then you are probably not middle class, you are the upper that these clowns are complaining about
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looks good. I see no reason to oppose this by anyone not infected with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

This is actually a Progressive tax reform!
 
Getin the ring said:
dude, you lose this argument, move on.

every time someone points out facts to you you deflect, or name call.

move on, you lose this one
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Project much?

Nah - I didn't lose this one. Not by a longshot.

The OP stands: Trump's plan is a boon for the very wealthy, and the working class will hope for some scraps.
 
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