The real truth about being Pro Life

Amadeus said:
I never said you did. The justification for subjugating women to slavery via forced pregnancy has almost always been from a religious angle, and I'm pointing out that the Bible is silent on this issue -- if not being in favor of abortion.
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I'm not arguing whether or not Roe v Wade is judicial overreach or not, but one thing anyone who has read the entire opinion must admit is that it took pains to be a great survey of abortion taking into consideration
history, religion, science and law . It too comes to the conclusion that religion has been "soft" on criminalizing or abrogating abortion. If ye seem support for pro life in the bible, sorry, life was cheap. It's loss was meted out for
the tiniest and most absurd infractions. Fuck, God's jealousy was sufficient grounds for him to wipe everyone off the map except Noah. Abortion of a fetus? Please.
 
evince said:
keep your fucking fingers out of the flesh inside my body


if it cant be removed alive from my body then its my flesh

GET IT YOU EVIL CONTROL FREAKS
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I'm a huge proponent of your black eugenics program, the left finally got something right.
 
Micawber said:
I get my exegesis not from Jesus, but from the flying spaghetti monster, the true overseer of the universe.
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Wrong. Q is

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Micawber said:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...ught_telling_his_extramarital_boo_to_get.html

According to documents obtained by the Post-Gazette, Shannon Edwards—a Pittsburgh woman exactly half Murphy’s age with whom he recently admitted to having an extramarital affair—texted Murphy in January about a possible pregnancy that turned out to be just a scare. “You have zero issue posting your pro-life stance all over the place when you had no issue asking me to abort our unborn child just last week when we thought that was one of the options,” she said, referring to a post from Murphy’s professional Facebook account that accused America of “discarding and disregarding the most vulnerable” for allowing abortions past 20 weeks’ gestation.
“I get what you say about my March for life messages,” Murphy responded. “I’ve never written them. Staff does them. I read them and winced. I told staff don't write any more. I will.”
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What a fucking hypocrite. I'm just glad real Conservatives don't think like this asshole.
 
The Zax said:
you don't have to be religious or a christian to be pro-life.
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Correct.


Amadeus (Latin for 'love of God') is incorrect though when he states:

"Sure, but there's zero religious justification for the pro-life movement."

God says:
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.
Jer 1:5

David says:
For You formed my inward parts;
You wove me in my mother’s womb.
I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Wonderful are Your works,
And my soul knows it very well.
Psalm 139: 13-14
 
Stretch said:
Correct.


Amadeus (Latin for 'love of God') is incorrect though when he states:

"Sure, but there's zero religious justification for the pro-life movement."

God says:
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you.
Jer 1:5

David says:
For You formed my inward parts;
You wove me in my mother’s womb.
I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Wonderful are Your works,
And my soul knows it very well.
Psalm 139: 13-14
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The Bible clearly states that the unborn, and even newly born, is not equal to the value of an adult. Whereas murder is punishable by death, taking the life of an unborn requires a monetary compensation and nothing more. Your passage means nothing with regard to abortion.
 
Micawber said:
According to documents obtained by the Post-Gazette, Shannon Edwards—a Pittsburgh woman exactly half Murphy’s age with whom he recently admitted to having an extramarital affair—texted Murphy in January about a possible pregnancy that turned out to be just a scare.
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Let's see these documents.

I don't believe a "she said" story without evidence that what she says he said was actually said, and vice versa.

No proof, no truth.
 
Amadoofus said:
The Bible clearly states that the unborn, and even newly born, is not equal to the value of an adult. Whereas murder is punishable by death, taking the life of an unborn requires a monetary compensation and nothing more. Your passage means nothing with regard to abortion.
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Is this the same Bible that you claimed depicts Jesus as "bronze"? :rofl2:
 
Amadeus:
"The Bible clearly states that the unborn, and even newly born, is not equal to the value of an adult."

The child has its own DNA from conception, a life and a soul and God is forming its physicality in the womb prior to birth.
God decides when we are to be created and when we are to die.
 
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Amadeus said:
I never said you did. The justification for subjugating women to slavery via forced pregnancy has almost always been from a religious angle, and I'm pointing out that the Bible is silent on this issue -- if not being in favor of abortion.
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interesting.....what religion is it that you believe subjugates women into forced pregnancy and why do you want to do that to your wife.......
 
Amadeus said:
The Bible clearly states that the unborn, and even newly born, is not equal to the value of an adult. Whereas murder is punishable by death, taking the life of an unborn requires a monetary compensation and nothing more.
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no it doesn't, you are mis-stating the passage....it does mention you, however......"Proverbs 26:7 A fool trying to say something wise is like a crippled person trying to walk."
 
CFM said:
Your inability to understand it is the problem.

Do you support taxpayers being forced to fund social welfare programs that feed a woman/her children SHE chose to have when she can't afford to do so?
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Do you support subjecting the children to starvation/death or begging etc??
 
The Zax said:
of course he is in favor of capital punishment. He's pro-choice. So he supports our choice to execute the convicted. If you are pro-choice in one context you have to be pro-choice in all contexts. Just like if you are pro-life in one context it extrapolates to all other contexts as well. This is what thing1 believes. If you read what he says, it's clear he supports our choice to execute.
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Wowzers - when do you get so dopey?

All of the Trump support do that to you?

What a shame.
 
For the record, unlike dopey Grind, I see the abortion debate as a pretty complex issue. It is definitely not as black & white as either side wants it to be.

Good solutions require a lot of thought and compromise - and very few like engaging in either.
 
Granule said:
What a fucking hypocrite. I'm just glad real Conservatives don't think like this asshole.
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No true Scotsman?

Here's the trouble with this rumor.

NOBODY has seen the alleged evidence that Rep. Murphy told Shannon Edwards to get an abortion AFAIK.

All we have is her word for it and the Shittsburgh Post-Gazette's claim to have "documents" which they won't reveal.
 
Bill said:
Do you support subjecting the children to starvation/death or begging etc??
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When one chooses to have children, one must take care of the children fully. If one knows they can't afford a child, find an adoptive family. A mother killing her innocent child is not the answer. If a mother becomes pregnant because of rape, kill the rapist, not the innocent child.
 
Stretch said:
When one chooses to have children, one must take care of the children fully. If one knows they can't afford a child, find an adoptive family. A mother killing her innocent child is not the answer. If a mother becomes pregnant because of rape, kill the rapist, not the innocent child.
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Incomprehensible.

You don't force a woman to carry that fetus to term. That's a barbaric state.
 
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