Ravens take a knee in London, but stand for God save the Queen.

christiefan915 said:
What's a brain juries? And here we have another of your stupid pretenses that I haven't spoken out against violence. The dirtiest team in the NFL is the Patriots.
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So? I'm talking about the slimy Squeelers.

Are there troubled souls and tragic accidents on every NFL team? Yes. Do most teams have a dark side? Yes.

Like it or not, this is all part of the Squeelers story.

At the heart of a 2009 investigation was the revelation in 2007 that Dr. Richard Rydze, a longtime member of the Steelers' medical staff, had been questioned by federal authorities after supposedly using a personal credit card to purchase six-figures worth of human growth hormone. According to published reports, Rydze said he purchased the HGH for his elderly patients.

Steelers guard Terry Lon tried to kill himself with rat poison after testing positive for steroids in 1991. He died in 2005 after drinking antifreeze. A year before Long died, Steelers offensive linemen Justin Strzelczyk was killed in a fiery head-on collision with a tanker truck after leading New York state troopers on a 40-mile chase. Hall of Fame center Mike Webster died from heart failure in 2002 at the age of 50, tormented by years of dementia, drug use and homelessness.

This incident was followed by off-the-field problems involving, among others, Santonio Holmes, Jeff Reed and Roethlisberger.


http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/110127&sportCat=nfl
 
God bless America said:
So? I'm talking about the slimy Squeelers.

Are there troubled souls and tragic accidents on every NFL team? Yes. Do most teams have a dark side? Yes.

Like it or not, this is all part of the Squeelers story.

At the heart of a 2009 investigation was the revelation in 2007 that Dr. Richard Rydze, a longtime member of the Steelers' medical staff, had been questioned by federal authorities after supposedly using a personal credit card to purchase six-figures worth of human growth hormone. According to published reports, Rydze said he purchased the HGH for his elderly patients.

Steelers guard Terry Lon tried to kill himself with rat poison after testing positive for steroids in 1991. He died in 2005 after drinking antifreeze. A year before Long died, Steelers offensive linemen Justin Strzelczyk was killed in a fiery head-on collision with a tanker truck after leading New York state troopers on a 40-mile chase. Hall of Fame center Mike Webster died from heart failure in 2002 at the age of 50, tormented by years of dementia, drug use and homelessness.

This incident was followed by off-the-field problems involving, among others, Santonio Holmes, Jeff Reed and Roethlisberger.


http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/110127&sportCat=nfl
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And here we have evidence of your hypocrisy, bashing the Steelers because I support them. How about bashing the slimy Patriots or the no-account Bengals too?
 
Darth Omar said:
Huh?

The 'display' is one of national unity. The way it's supposed to work is we gather around the flag to express our national unity *before* we go onto express whatever gripe we have with X issue.
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yeppers. we put our tribal symbol on display and salute it ( this is ordinary human behavior folks)
..we be the good guys. or at least we wear the white hats
 
christiefan915 said:
And here we have evidence of your hypocrisy, bashing the Steelers because I support them. How about bashing the slimy Patriots or the no-account Bengals too?
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You honestly do not know what hypocrisy is, do you?

OK. Hypocrisy does not mean "disagreeing with Christiecrite". Hypocrisy does not mean "making Christiecrite uncomfortable".

Here's what hypocrisy means: "the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform".

That's what you often do.

I have not claimed that any other team is blameless. I have not said that any other team is better or worse. I have stated facts about your team, and expressed the fact that they are notorious.

In so doing, in no way have I claimed to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform.

Your childlike belief in identity politics has even tainted your view of pro football. It's not "us" vs "them" every time. If I criticize the Squeelers factually I am not attacking you - as much as you seem to think so. Life is not about Christiecrite.

If I criticize the Squeelers factually I am not claimng that other teams are innocent of all wrongdoing.

You need help. Will you allow me to help you?
 
God bless America said:
You honestly do not know what hypocrisy is, do you?

OK. Hypocrisy does not mean "disagreeing with Christiecrite". Hypocrisy does not mean "making Christiecrite uncomfortable".

Here's what hypocrisy means: "the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform".

That's what you often do.

I have not claimed that any other team is blameless. I have not said that any other team is better or worse. I have stated facts about your team, and expressed the fact that they are notorious.

In so doing, in no way have I claimed to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform.

Your childlike belief in identity politics has even tainted your view of pro football. It's not "us" vs "them" every time. If I criticize the Squeelers factually I am not attacking you - as much as you seem to think so. Life is not about Christiecrite.

If I criticize the Squeelers factually I am not claimng that other teams are innocent of all wrongdoing.

You need help. Will you allow me to help you?
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Sure, "help" me. This should be fun.

You are being selective about your criticism. The thread wasn't even about the Steelers yet you introduced their faults for no purpose except to taunt me.
 
christiefan915 said:
Spoken like a true conservative... or a non-conservative pretending to be one. You sure got all the memes down pat... "hate America" always goes over big with trumpists. Not that they can actually define what it means to "hate America."
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You don't deny it, though. Maybe we have different ideas of what "hating America" looks like.
 
christiefan915 said:
What evidence are you looking for? There is no instance in Steeler history where the entire team got court-ordered community service. freedumb made the claim, ask him. Don't waste my time.
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I asked Y O U for evidence to refute his accusation. You jumped mighty fast to say he was lying. I guess it's just a reflex. I've heard it's common among habitual liars to accuse others of what they practice.
 
God bless America said:
I asked Y O U for evidence to refute his accusation. You jumped mighty fast to say he was lying. I guess it's just a reflex. I've heard it's common among habitual liars to accuse others of what they practice.
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He did lie. Don't deny it just because he's on your side, it makes you look silly.
 
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