Sanders Pushes Back: ‘I Worked as Hard as I Could’ Hillary Clinton (Meet the Press)

he did. I was sick he threw away his principles to work for that skank -but he did.

HRClinton is running around blaming everythting and everyone for her crappy campaign.
She is the most disgusting figure in modern politics

Where is your thread in support of Bernie Sanders and single payer?
Shouldn't you be trying to convince the Republicans that single payer is the way to go?

After all, that's what makes you a moderate right? All you racist white men run around here talking about how moderate you are and you'd support single payer or a public option. I don't see any of you advocating for it now that it has been brought to the table.

Show how your not a racist and post hundreds of threads demonizing the right for not supporting single payer.
 
Where is your thread in support of Bernie Sanders and single payer?
Shouldn't you be trying to convince the Republicans that single payer is the way to go?

After all, that's what makes you a moderate right? All you racist white men run around here talking about how moderate you are and you'd support single payer or a public option. I don't see any of you advocating for it now that it has been brought to the table.

Show how your not a racist and post hundreds of threads demonizing the right for not supporting single payer.
I supported sanders during the primary. Look it up.
I support SP now and then as the only sane way to insure everyone
Look that up too.
 
Sanders should have never run, period.

If he absolutely had to, he should've ran as an independent, not as a Democratic challenger to HRC.

He sunk the Democrats' chances by creating a rift within the party and siphoning votes away from her.

Now, both he and his supporters are too chicken to admit and accept their responsibility in giving us Donald J. Trump.

Sanders should have won. he had all the enthusiasm, and he had better poll numbers then Clinton.
as far s a "rift" -that's what primaries do. sanders sucked it up and still supported Hillary,which many primary opponents won't do -the Republican Tea Party as an ex.

Face it. Clinton was a horrible candidate

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I supported sanders during the primary. Look it up.
I support SP now and then as the only sane way to insure everyone
Look that up too.

I know. That is why I'm asking you where are your support threads for single payer? Instead of making threads about Clinton.

Don't you think it's important that single pay really happens?

Is your political priority to continually critique a failed Presidency, or move forward to push leglisation that will help us all?

In other words........put your money where you mouth is!
 
I know. That is why I'm asking you where are your support threads for single payer? Instead of making threads about Clinton.

Don't you think it's important that single pay really happens?

Is your political priority to continually critique a failed Presidency, or move forward to push leglisation that will help us all?
In other words........put your money where you mouth is!
it's noteven proposed legislation yet. Plus I have been out of the political loop in terms of following the minutia.
Still recovering from the hurricane
If you want to start a thread and get the discussion going,i'll post on it.
 
the book only makes sense when you realize that What Happened is a fake title, a P. T. Barnum–style ruse to draw in the suckers. The real subject of this 500-page chunk of self-congratulation and blame-shifting — its real title — is “Why I Should Have Won.”

If Hollywood is a place where you peel off the fake tinsel only to find the real tinsel underneath, Hillary Clinton is homo politicus all the way through.
It’s all she has. It’s all she is. She earned the Oval Office, dammit, and she wants you to know it.
Peel off the phony, power-addled political hack, and all you’ll find is the real, power-addled political hack underneath.

Sure, Clinton does give us a few stray morsels of what we’re looking for, mostly at the very beginning, when she describes what must have been an agony for the ages in tightly controlled, supremely measured tones.
She tells us about the pain and the Chardonnay and how surreal it felt to concede on Election Night, given that she had never imagined what she might say if she lost. “I just didn’t think about it,” she writes.
Also, she took a nap that evening and was asleep when the news broke that she’d lost Florida, North Carolina, Iowa, and Ohio.
But it’s all fairly bloodless — she give no explanation, for instance, of why she withheld her concession speech until the next day.

No doubt she cherishes her privacy, but guardedness is not what one wants in a memoir. The reserve is likely to disappoint both those who cried on Election Night and those who spent the wee hours of November 9 spraying their homes with the contents of a case of Veuve Clicquot.

Yet there is poignancy here: She had every expectation of becoming the most powerful woman in the history of the world. Instead she’ll go down in the books defined by three gigantic public humiliations: the Lewinsky scandal and two losing presidential campaigns in which she was the heavy favorite.
She wasn’t even the first woman to be secretary of state.
She wasn’t even the second woman to be secretary of state. History is unkind to losers — quick, ask the nearest Millennial who Geraldine Ferraro was.

As the book proceeds, though, the reader’s heart sinks. Why all this stupefying name-checking of campaign aides who never get mentioned again?
Why two pages about her hairdressers, but only two clipped paragraphs about that time she collapsed on 9/11? Why is she still laying out the same policy proposals America rejected last year?
Why does she keep teasing us with promises to tell us about her “mistakes,” without ever following through?
Why all the ordinary-citizen tales from the Just-So Stories of Big Government, the ones along the lines of:
“Then I met Jill Shlabotnik, a humble weasel rancher from Sarasota, Florida…Jill told me how [sorrow, tears, pain, injustice] . . . and that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we urgently need a 5.7 percent increase in deputy assistant EPA administrators!”

This is the norm for convention speeches, not for campaign autopsies, especially not one written from the point of view of the corpse. “In the past, for reasons I try to explain, I’ve often felt I had to be careful in public, like I was up on a wire without a net. Now I’m letting my guard down,” Clinton writes.
Tantalizing!
But there’s almost nothing she couldn’t or wouldn’t have said when she had to maintain her political viability, almost nothing she couldn’t or wouldn’t have said in one of those eyeball-glazers she called speeches, almost no instances where she takes stock of her flaws, except in the disingenuous manner of a job interviewee —
“My biggest failing? I guess it’s just that I’m so focused that sometimes I can’t let work go, you know?” In Hillary’s case? “I had been unable to connect with the deep anger so many Americans felt,” “I was running a traditional presidential campaign with carefully thought-out positions. . . . Trump was running a reality TV show,”
and (my favorite): “It’s true that I’ve always been more comfortable talking about others

She barely knows Trump and has no personal stories about him despite having crossed paths with him over the years in New York.
The only inside dirt she offers is that she thought it would be a gaudy spectacle to attend his wedding to Melania, so she did;
that she wanted to make it clear via body language at the first debate with him that she didn’t want to shake his hand, so she didn’t; and that she was rattled by his standing too close to her at the second debate, so she wonders if she should have snapped at him — “Back up, you creep!”– which would have been bonkers and great fun, but unfortunately she didn’t.

You have to scythe your way through a lot of weeds to find a few gems, those rare, unintentionally revealing glimpses of why Clinton failed.
The one that really shines comes via actual skilled politician Bill Clinton: He knows this guy in Arkansas, a store owner in the Ozarks who is the perfect bellwether.
The shopkeeper often votes for Democrats, has done so many times, including for Bill and for longtime senator Mark Pryor.
But sometimes he just can’t pull the trigger and goes the other way. He’s like the hero of that Kevin Costner comedy about a presidential election that is so close it comes down to the vote of one guy.
Before the 2014 midterms, Bill sent somebody out to talk to the guy.
How would things go? The guy said, “We’re going to give Congress to the Republicans.” Neither party would do anything for people like him, but “at least the Republicans won’t do anything to us,” he reasoned.
“The Democrats want to take away my gun and make me go to a gay wedding.”

Bill’s reaction would have been immediate triangulation:
How do I win over this guy? How do I talk to him? How do I find common ground? Hillary’s reaction is:
Sheesh, the voters are appalling! It doesn’t even occur to her that she needs to figure out a way to appeal to the store owner over the next two years.
He’s a write-off. He’s a deplorable. Here’s what she writes:

The politics of cultural identity and resentment were overwhelming evidence, reason, and personal experience. It seemed like “Brexit” had come to America even before the vote in the United Kingdom, and it didn’t bode well for 2016. . . . The political landscape for the 2016 race was shaping up to be extremely challenging.

Yep, it’s challenging to make people like you when it’s obvious you think they’re troglodytes and morons.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...n-what-happened-real-title-why-i-shouldve-won
 
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it's noteven proposed legislation yet. Plus I have been out of the political loop in terms of following the minutia.
Still recovering from the hurricane
If you want to start a thread and get the discussion going,i'll post on it.

"Plus I have been out of the political loop in terms of following the minutia".

But has current threads about Hilary.

Fuckin fraud.
 
Says the guy who participated in Sarah Palin threads after McCain lost. Give it a rest, Things... Reality: This woman is trying to stay relevant and just put out a book. This could be a reason we're talking about her.

Palin is just troll bait because she is such a clown. No, these people are obsessed with Hillary. Yes, she is trying to stay relevant, but only the right seems moved. The book has done little to increase the frequency of the pile ons.

I snope this 2/3 false
 
"Plus I have been out of the political loop in terms of following the minutia".

But has current threads about Hilary.

Fuckin fraud.
it's an EZ post.
She's all over TV making a fool of herself.
She's making herself into a laughingstock and completely unsympathetic figure.
It's a no brainer to post her words, book. It's thoroughly trashed by reviewers
 
Sanders should have won. he had all the enthusiasm, and he had better poll numbers then Clinton.
as far s a "rift" -that's what primaries do. sanders sucked it up and still supported Hillary,which many primary opponents won't do -the Republican Tea Party as an ex.

Face it. Clinton was a horrible candidate

Retarded logic. :lolup:

If he "should have" won the primaries, HE WOULD HAVE.

BUT HE DIDN'T!!!

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Outside of New England and the upper Midwest, the majority of the states he won were the sparsely populated lower Midwestern and Western States.

Old BS was way too far to the left to have won in a general election and would've gotten ripped to shreds by the right.

They would've tattooed "SOCIALIST" across his face in permanent bright commie red ink.

You are the one who needs to face facts. Sanders' candidacy as a Democrat challenger sank Clinton and gave us Trumptard.

And now Sanders and his BernBots are all to spineless to stand up and admit it.
 
Retarded logic. :lolup:

If he "should have" won the primaries, HE WOULD HAVE.

BUT HE DIDN'T!!!

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Outside of New England and the upper Midwest, the majority of the states he won were the sparsely populated lower Midwestern and Western States.

Old BS was way too far to the left to have won in a general election and would've gotten ripped to shreds by the right.

They would've tattooed "SOCIALIST" across his face in permanent bright commie red ink.

You are the one who needs to face facts. Sanders' candidacy as a Democrat challenger sank Clinton and gave us Trumptard.

And now Sanders and his BernBots are all to spineless to stand up and admit it.
meh/ it's your problem not mine. i'm not a Democrat and am happy with either Trump or sanders.

You might consider the corrupted DNC favored Hillary, with peeps like Donna Brazil giving away the answers to questions, or superdelegates for Hillary.
There was no question sanders had the enthusiasm and beter poll numbers against Trump..
but like I said it's not my problem
 
Of course you never complain about the hundreds threads by liberals about Trump, Bush, etc.....

You're a whiny hack, period.

You mean, the guys who actually won elections & were President?

I see that you're lying about me (again) got you a bit triggered. You shouldn't lie about me, Yurt.
 
Sanders should have never run, period.

If he absolutely had to, he should've ran as an independent, not as a Democratic challenger to HRC.

He sunk the Democrats' chances by creating a rift within the party and siphoning votes away from her.

Now, both he and his supporters are too chicken to admit and accept their responsibility in giving us Donald J. Trump.

See, Yurt?
 
meh/ it's your problem not mine. i'm not a Democrat and am happy with either Trump or sanders.

You might consider the corrupted DNC favored Hillary, with peeps like Donna Brazil giving away the answers to questions, or superdelegates for Hillary.
There was no question sanders had the enthusiasm and beter poll numbers against Trump..
but like I said it's not my problem

If you're happy with Trump, you are no Democrat.

The fact that you give credence to Sanders' PROJECTED poll numbers against Trump just shows how clueless you are. Had Old BS won the primaries and become the nominee, that more than likely would have all changed in short order. Once the right-wing attack machine kicked into gear and the socialist commie label started being applied, and once normal adult minded people really started looking at his wacky proposals designed to appeal only to millennials who were living with their parents because they couldn't afford to move out on their own, his numbers would've gone into the toilet.
 
If you're happy with Trump, you are no Democrat.

The fact that you give credence to Sanders' PROJECTED poll numbers against Trump just shows how clueless you are. Had Old BS won the primaries and become the nominee, that more than likely would have all changed in short order. Once the right-wing attack machine kicked into gear and the socialist commie label started being applied, and once normal adult minded people really started looking at his wacky proposals designed to appeal only to millennials who were living with their parents because they couldn't afford to move out on their own, his numbers would've gone into the toilet.
I am decidedly NOT a Democrat. I am decidedly NOT a Republican.
I loathe DC establishment politics ( one reason I supported Trump and sanders)

Partisanship is a mindfvck- it's coming at an idea with preconceptions of what you want it to be ,
instead of seeing what it is.
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ya ya. I get the argument you are making-my takeis Clinton was the worst possible candidate.
Her negatives were as high as Trumps
 
I am decidedly NOT a Democrat. I am decidedly NOT a Republican.
I loathe DC establishment politics ( one reason I supported Trump and sanders)

Partisanship is a mindfvck- it's coming at an idea with preconceptions of what you want it to be ,
instead of seeing what it is.
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ya ya. I get the argument you are making-my takeis Clinton was the worst possible candidate.
Her negatives were as high as Trumps

Your problem, like most so-called "independents" and BernBots, is that you live in a fairytale "oughta-be" world that you lack the realism and patience to try to attain gradually, the way things happen in REAL LIFE.

You waste your votes and support on some pie-in-the-sky peddler like Sanders who sold you idiots a bill of goods he could have never delivered, and in doing so, screwed over the best, most qualified candidate (in spite of your pathetic, idiotic, misogynistic claims to the contrary) in the country, which resulted in handing the election to this unstable, unqualified, megalomaniac halfwitted clown.

And now every last one of you is running like chickens with your tail feathers tucked between your scrawny little chicken legs trying to deny your culpability in screwing over America and the entire free world.

:chicken:

Congratulations, "morans".
 
Your problem, like most so-called "independents" and BernBots, is that you live in a fairytale "oughta-be" world that you lack the realism and patience to try to attain gradually, the way things happen in REAL LIFE.

You waste your votes and support on some pie-in-the-sky peddler like Sanders who sold you idiots a bill of goods he could have never delivered, and in doing so, screwed over the best, most qualified candidate (in spite of your pathetic, idiotic, misogynistic claims to the contrary) in the country, which resulted in handing the election to this unstable, unqualified, megalomaniac halfwitted clown.

And now every last one of you is running like chickens with your tail feathers tucked between your scrawny little chicken legs trying to deny your culpability in screwing over America and the entire free world.

:chicken:

Congratulations, "morans".
Sanders is getting traction with his single pay proposals -despite not having any legislative majority of WH
- to back it.
So I'm not buying into it was a "pie in the sky" candidacy.

Clinton is becoming more and more unhinged. without a doubt we'd have ground troops in Syria enforcing a "humanitarian corridor" along with her no fly.
Instead we got a ceasefire with Trump and Putin.

I'm happy enough with Trump.The problem is the Swamp. Hopefully John McCain is dead soon enough.
I want to see how tax reform shakes out to grow the GDP (something both sanders and Clinton never spoke to)
weasel see. at least WOTUS is dead
 
Sanders should have never run, period.

If he absolutely had to, he should've ran as an independent, not as a Democratic challenger to HRC.

He sunk the Democrats' chances by creating a rift within the party and siphoning votes away from her.

Now, both he and his supporters are too chicken to admit and accept their responsibility in giving us Donald J. Trump.

That would have been more damaging. As an independent, he would have cost her the popular vote and handed Trump an electoral landslide.
 
Sanders should have never run, period.

If he absolutely had to, he should've ran as an independent, not as a Democratic challenger to HRC.

He sunk the Democrats' chances by creating a rift within the party and siphoning votes away from her.

Now, both he and his supporters are too chicken to admit and accept their responsibility in giving us Donald J. Trump.
Thank God for that, he kept that horrid hectoring harridan from gaining power. Not only that, but caused endless wailing and gnashing of teeth from the likes of you and your sock Gomer.
 
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