"Trump: Tax reform can create ‘millions of jobs"

Cypress said:
An honest Republican at last: tax policy is not about economic growth, or jobs. It is about keeping undeserving people from for "voting for free stuff".

I should also point out the massive goal post moving you and other wingnuts have tried to pivot too.

For many years, the con Mantra was that "tax cuts pay for themselves"

So why did you pivot to saying the only work if there are massive cuts to education, infrastructure, and/or other social programs??

I mean, why not just be honest from the start? If you want tax cuts for the rich, just say that you need to slash or defund education, highways, infrastructure, medicaid, and other societal needs.
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Tax cuts pay for themselves has not been the mantra. Go find the people who claimed that. It's a phrase liberals claim conservatives use.
 
Cypress said:
Good lord man, are you really pointing to Michigan as a model of economic growth for the nation?
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yes I am.....though I wouldn't be able to do it if we hadn't gotten rid of Granholm.......as for Obama, his supporters in Detroit and Inkster (those that weren't fraudulent votes, anyway) realized they had nothing to lose and Michigan voted for Trump.....

Also can't help noticing you did not disagree that there are about two billion posts on this board in which the main grievance rightwingers have about taxes is that "the darkies" are always voting to "get free stuff" with other people's taxes?
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really?.....any rational person would have known I disagreed......is that why you didn't know?......because you aren't a rational person?.....in fact I specifically stated that it was YOU and your ilk that we objected to, not any particular race......
 
It's semantics. They're considered JFK's tax cuts even though they technically passed under LBJ.
 
Cypress said:
So why did you pivot to saying the only work if there are massive cuts to education, infrastructure, and/or other social programs??
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what pivot?.......its been an essential part of the program since Reagan......

is this really the first time you've heard a conservative say there ought to be cuts in spending?........lol......
 
Bill said:
What do you attribute it to??
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Optimism. And I know it won't sustain growth, like love don't pay the rent. But people who run businesses(and that includes the evil corporations)understand that a low tax rate and an increased profit margin(I know, I know, I said "profit", which makes me a racist)is good for the economy. But if you want to RAISE taxes, RAISE the minimum wage, INCREASE regulation, and it results in a stagnant economy at best, what do you expect business to do? Why would they hire anybody, much less increase wages? The left has convinced much of it's voter base that the only solution to "income inequality" and all that other made up gibberish, is to raise taxes and redistribute the booty to those the gobblement thinks deserves it. In fact, some very smart people are now promoting the idea of a "national salary", which as I understand it, is getting a check from the gobblement simply for being an American. WTF? Is this the sign of a healthy economy?
 
callinectes said:
Optimism. And I know it won't sustain growth, like love don't pay the rent. But people who run businesses(and that includes the evil corporations)understand that a low tax rate and an increased profit margin(I know, I know, I said "profit", which makes me a racist)is good for the economy. But if you want to RAISE taxes, RAISE the minimum wage, INCREASE regulation, and it results in a stagnant economy at best, what do you expect business to do? Why would they hire anybody, much less increase wages? The left has convinced much of it's voter base that the only solution to "income inequality" and all that other made up gibberish, is to raise taxes and redistribute the booty to those the gobblement thinks deserves it. In fact, some very smart people are now promoting the idea of a "national salary", which as I understand it, is getting a check from the gobblement simply for being an American. WTF? Is this the sign of a healthy economy?
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good post.. raise taxes/tax the rich and redistrubute..nothing about GDP growth from the libs!!
 
"Trump: Tax reform can create ‘millions of jobs"

1) you don't have to "pay for tax cuts". It presumes it is the gobblements money

2) cutting taxes without spending cuts at this point in the game is futile.

What is really needed is spending reform.


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callinectes said:
I teach welding at a vocational school, and all I know is, I've had 4 employers come to my class looking for apprentices in the first six months of the Trump administration. That may not seem like many, but it's a 100% increase over the entire EIGHT YEARS of the obama error. There is definitely something going on and I don't think it's business gleefully anticipating a return to obamanomics or "democratic socialism".
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Maybe 4 welders retired, got hurt, or fired?
 
noise said:
of course. But the supply being mindlessly cut - who does that hurt but the patients?

so called "diversion" isn't the problem as described by the Center for Disease Control.

Yet the DEA comes in with it's desire ( reducing diversion by reducing supply) -
even though supply isn't the real problem ( cheap heroin is).

AND

All this makes it impossible for a GP to work with a patient for their needs -instead they write according to the idea of cutting prescriptions.

You really need to up your general mistrust of bureaucrats. They don't give a damn about people -just their power
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Cheap heroin is the problem? People got addicted to opiates because of collusion between Big Pharma, and doctors.

Now we have an epidemic, and heroin is the only available opiate on the streets.
 
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