This is how ridiculous it's getting

Trump doesn't have ideas. He's just about Trump.

You'll realize that eventually.
more sanctimonious preaching by Thing..
He has a lot of ideas summed up as MAGA ( economic nationalism) and 'America first" foreign/trade policy.
 
that's a utterly bogus assertion. Politicans may not be the entire left, but they are a biggest part of the left.
They have the power for the left ( and the right etc)

actually i'm trying to follow your dissembling. as stated the left insists on denunciation,and they want it unequivocally or you are considered a "racist" -exactly the same scenario run up against Trump

it's you whom are trying to separate out politicians from "the left" now . you are all over the place

Politicians have never been "the left." Look at the Iraq War. The left was opposed to it. Corporate Dem politicians voted for it. Some politicians are "left," but the Dem Party does not represent the left.

Regardless, it's a goalpost move for you. You've gone from "the entire left" to now trying to parse how you just meant a few politicians. Pretty pathetic, even for you.
 
more sanctimonious preaching by Thing..
He has a lot of ideas summed up as MAGA ( economic nationalism) and 'America first" foreign/trade policy.

It's just a fact. I can't help that your under some sort of spell and can't see Trump clearly for who & what he is. You have been totally conned; you just do not realize it yet.
 
Let's not.

The left owns Antifa. Not just in the USA, either. Antifa has long been internationally active.

By parroting the lies that Antifa is a fringe group that hardly defines Democrats or "the left" you have become an apologist for violence, and a propagandist for a hate group.

Acknowledge that, HOSS.
they certainly weren't considered a fringe group at Charlottesville. They were "peaceful protestors" forced to stand up against vile nazis.
It's like nobody saw flame thrower spray cans and baseball bats ( self-righteous blindness)..because they were the good guys
 
It's just a fact. I can't help that your under some sort of spell and can't see Trump clearly for who & what he is. You have been totally conned; you just do not realize it yet.
more sanctimonious ad hoc soothsaying by Thing..I gave you his ideas -you return vapid admonishments
 
more sanctimonious ad hoc soothsaying by Thing..I gave you his ideas -you return vapid admonishments

I know what Trump has presented as ideas - but he is nothing more than an opportunist & con man. He is all about himself. That isn't 'vapid' - that's a fact.
 
I know what Trump has presented as ideas - but he is nothing more than an opportunist & con man. He is all about himself. That isn't 'vapid' - that's a fact.

So pronounceth the mighty High Oracle of Situational Selectivity (HOSS).

Let all accept his words at face value and kneel before his altar! :rofl2:
 
they certainly weren't considered a fringe group at Charlottesville. They were "peaceful protestors" forced to stand up against vile nazis.
It's like nobody saw flame thrower spray cans and baseball bats ( self-righteous blindness)..because they were the good guys


Bingo.

All those who have eyes saw.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Liberals will not see.
 
they certainly weren't considered a fringe group at Charlottesville. They were "peaceful protestors" forced to stand up against vile nazis.
It's like nobody saw flame thrower spray cans and baseball bats ( self-righteous blindness)..because they were the good guys

There were no good guys amongst the thugs and thuggery.

In a more sane world, the cops would have rounded every one of them up and thrown them in jail. Let the judge sort out which wing nut is a Nazi and which wing nut is Antifa. Assuming he would even care.

Hell, put them all in the same cell and let them sort it out lol. That would put a stop to it.
 
Politicians have never been "the left." Look at the Iraq War. The left was opposed to it. Corporate Dem politicians voted for it. Some politicians are "left," but the Dem Party does not represent the left.

Regardless, it's a goalpost move for you. You've gone from "the entire left" to now trying to parse how you just meant a few politicians. Pretty pathetic, even for you.
so what is the left? progressive anti-war?
When you associate yourself with a Party -you can't pick and choose what part of the party you are.

You can say independents like Bernie are not Democrats ( even though he ran for the nomination) or perhaps Jill Stein who is Green, but if you are a Democrat you are associated with all of them.

same thing goes for the Tea Party - they are Republicans. They can whine they are not, and they may engage in internecine warfare with other Republicans, but they still have an (R.) after their title..

as to "the entire left" you've completely lost me. I was obviously speaking about politicians first and foremost,
but when you decided to drag in "the entire left" I showed you that sane standard prevails. Like it did for Trump
 
I know what Trump has presented as ideas - but he is nothing more than an opportunist & con man. He is all about himself. That isn't 'vapid' - that's a fact.
that's your opinion. You tend to equate the man to his role as POTUS.
I have no love for Trump the man-but as POTUS I greatly agree with his concepts of governing
 
There were no good guys amongst the thugs and thuggery.

In a more sane world, the cops would have rounded every one of them up and thrown them in jail. Let the judge sort out which wing nut is a Nazi and which wing nut is Antifa. Assuming he would even care.

Hell, put them all in the same cell and let them sort it out lol. That would put a stop to it.
yet we were admonished the 2 are not the same..they are one and the same. Thugs acting as thugs
 
Politicians have never been "the left." Look at the Iraq War. The left was opposed to it. Corporate Dem politicians voted for it. Some politicians are "left," but the Dem Party does not represent the left.

Regardless, it's a goalpost move for you. You've gone from "the entire left" to now trying to parse how you just meant a few politicians. Pretty pathetic, even for you.


Above all else, I've noticed liberals use whom as grammatically dictated. Conservatives use whom like Rick Perry dons glasses, as a stage prop. It's a big fact tell. The error rate is about 90%. I hate when I have to feel embarrassed for others.
 
yet we were admonished the 2 are not the same..they are one and the same. Thugs acting as thugs

Even though that fact is unassailable to anyone with half a brain and two functional eye balls, the assertion doesn't send the appropriate virtue signal to your peers lol.

Or in Trump's case, the Twitterverse and media.
 
Even though that fact is unassailable to anyone with half a brain and two functional eye balls, the assertion doesn't send the appropriate virtue signal to your peers lol.

Or in Trump's case, the Twitterverse and media.
indeed.
virtue signaling is now more important then facts on the ground for the left.
 
It's just a fact. I can't help that your under some sort of spell and can't see Trump clearly for who & what he is. You have been totally conned; you just do not realize it yet.
the Dem Party does not represent the left ????????????????
Are you even aware of the left represents and if or how it differs from the Dems?

Have you given any thought to suing your teachers for malpractice ?

Does the Republican party represent the right ?....
 
the Dem Party does not represent the left ????????????????
Are you even aware of the left represents and if or how it differs from the Dems?

Have you given any thought to suing your teachers for malpractice ?

Does the Republican party represent the right ?....
I am on the left and I am not a Democrat, there are many like me, maybe you should be the one who goes back
to school.

I dont think the Relublicans represent a lot of people on the right, anymore, especially with Trump as their head.

I have seen some really high profiled people leaving the party.
 
Democrats have never really represented "the left." I think many on the right would say that Republicans don't really represent them - they certainly did by electing Trump.

But many Dem politicians are just corporate; they don't really stand for much. Most lefties that I know personally don't have some sort of fierce loyalty to that party; quite a few vote Green or another party, or vote Dem as a lesser of 2 evils thing.
 
Democrats have never really represented "the left." I think many on the right would say that Republicans don't really represent them - they certainly did by electing Trump.

But many Dem politicians are just corporate; they don't really stand for much. Most lefties that I know personally don't have some sort of fierce loyalty to that party; quite a few vote Green or another party, or vote Dem as a lesser of 2 evils thing.
Precisely, thanks
 
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