Trump to scrap protection for 'Dreamers,' give Congress six months to fix

Well, in fact immigrant aliens are allowed to serve in the Armed Forces and it is a fast track to citizenship.

USCIS established the Naturalization at Basic Training Initiative in August 2009 with the Army to give noncitizen enlistees the opportunity to naturalize when they graduate from basic training. Under this initiative, USCIS conducts all naturalization processing including the capture of biometrics, the naturalization interview and administration of the Oath of Allegiance on the military installation. USCIS has expanded the initiative to the Navy, Air Force, and the Marine Corps, giving enlistees of these branches the opportunity to (in most cases) leave basic training as U.S. citizens.

https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/naturalization-through-military-service-fact-sheet

Lying liberals who love law-breakers keep keening about DACA and the military even though Dreamers in the service won't need DACA to become citizens.

I know that; the question is that if someone is an illegal, how can they be allowed to serve? Why? It is a moronic policy that opens the door to law breaking. Why should someone here illegally get ahead of those waiting in line?
 
I know that; the question is that if someone is an illegal, how can they be allowed to serve? Why? It is a moronic policy that opens the door to law breaking. Why should someone here illegally get ahead of those waiting in line?

Where and when did you serve?
 
Why would I do that? All the available evidence is out there. And it goes against fender head who cannot refute it with any kind of fact. Perhaps you can?

I am willing to be you don't remember what it is you are arguing about. But if you think a majority of Americans are for illegal immigration, you have your head stuck up your ass. If that were the case, Trump would not be President. DUH!

Poll: Americans overwhelmingly oppose sanctuary cities
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ricans-overwhelmingly-oppose-sanctuary-cities

In US, Worry About Illegal Immigration Steady
http://www.gallup.com/poll/206681/worry-illegal-immigration-steady.aspx

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters still think, when it comes to immigration reform, gaining control of the border is more important than legalizing the status of undocumented workers already living in the United States. Slightly more (47%), however, believe that legalizing those who are already here is more important. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...t_events/immigration/immigration_update_jun28
 
I know that; the question is that if someone is an illegal, how can they be allowed to serve? Why? It is a moronic policy that opens the door to law breaking. Why should someone here illegally get ahead of those waiting in line?


I guess the justification is that someone who wants to defend our country with their life deserves a break. :dunno:

Bush 43 issued the Executive Order.

Keep in mind that an alien need not be in the USA (CONUS) to enlist.

All aspects of the naturalization process, including applications, interviews and ceremonies are available overseas to members of the U.S. armed forces and certain “command-sponsored” spouses.

https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/naturalization-through-military-service-fact-sheet
 
Look up the restrictions on DACA. Then come back and try to discuss this intelligently. As far as the military, nothing says you care more about being part of this country than serving for it.

When I was in back in the 70's they had non-citizens serving...........:palm: Why waste time trying to discuss/educate that fool......
 
I am willing to be you don't remember what it is you are arguing about. But if you think a majority of Americans are for illegal immigration, you have your head stuck up your ass. If that were the case, Trump would not be President. DUH!

Poll: Americans overwhelmingly oppose sanctuary cities
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ricans-overwhelmingly-oppose-sanctuary-cities

In US, Worry About Illegal Immigration Steady
http://www.gallup.com/poll/206681/worry-illegal-immigration-steady.aspx

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters still think, when it comes to immigration reform, gaining control of the border is more important than legalizing the status of undocumented workers already living in the United States. Slightly more (47%), however, believe that legalizing those who are already here is more important. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...t_events/immigration/immigration_update_jun28

None of that has to do with DACA. And of course with the last link you shoot yourself in the foot. Basic math is not one of your strong points obviously.
 
Where and when did you serve?

WTF does this have to do with anything you whiny dunce? I asked a question; why would someone who is ILLEGAL be permitted to serve in our armed forces? It's an idiot policy that makes little sense.

Nothing dumber than a service person and the stupid belief that in matters of border protection and military, their views should somehow trump anyone else's who hasn't served while offering up NOTHING to substantiate their emotional hyperbole. Stop being a whiny pussy like BuckTard and NoNads and answer the question and provide some factual support to your emotional hysterics.
 
None of that has to do with DACA. And of course with the last link you shoot yourself in the foot. Basic math is not one of your strong points obviously.

Dear idiot; they all have something to do with DACA. DACA is ONLY supported by a majority when the wording includes LEARN ENGLISH, GOING TO COLLEGE and IN THE MILITARY. This would be a teeny tiny percentage of those who are here ILLEGALLY.

So please stop with the stupid whiny buffoonish drivel and support your claims with something more than "because you say so." Trump was elected on this issue you idiot.
 
I am willing to be you don't remember what it is you are arguing about. But if you think a majority of Americans are for illegal immigration, you have your head stuck up your ass. If that were the case, Trump would not be President. DUH!

Poll: Americans overwhelmingly oppose sanctuary cities
http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ricans-overwhelmingly-oppose-sanctuary-cities

In US, Worry About Illegal Immigration Steady
http://www.gallup.com/poll/206681/worry-illegal-immigration-steady.aspx

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters still think, when it comes to immigration reform, gaining control of the border is more important than legalizing the status of undocumented workers already living in the United States. Slightly more (47%), however, believe that legalizing those who are already here is more important. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...t_events/immigration/immigration_update_jun28


I don't believe any poll is a valid measure of political reality for the reasons I gave above.

It's tempting to accept them at face value and tout them as "proof that you are right", but the facts don't support that.

You gave a great example when you noted that almost every poll said Hillary would win.

You'd think liberals would have learned to be wary of using polls as a political barometer after that massive failure, but they are liberals, so learning from experience doesn't apply. :rofl2:
 
WTF does this have to do with anything you whiny dunce? I asked a question; why would someone who is ILLEGAL be permitted to serve in our armed forces? It's an idiot policy that makes little sense.

Nothing dumber than a service person and the stupid belief that in matters of border protection and military, their views should somehow trump anyone else's who hasn't served while offering up NOTHING to substantiate their emotional hyperbole. Stop being a whiny pussy like BuckTard and NoNads and answer the question and provide some factual support to your emotional hysterics.

That is a round about rather faggy ass way of saying you never served. Like I said before, this is way over your intellectual level. Pussy.
 
I guess the justification is that someone who wants to defend our country with their life deserves a break. :dunno:

Bush 43 issued the Executive Order.

Keep in mind that an alien need not be in the USA (CONUS) to enlist.

All aspects of the naturalization process, including applications, interviews and ceremonies are available overseas to members of the U.S. armed forces and certain “command-sponsored” spouses.

https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/naturalization-through-military-service-fact-sheet

That rationale doesn't wash. If someone is here ILLEGALLY, why would they be permitted to step in front of everyone else and serve in the military?
 
I think Congress might actually do something on this. It would be to their benefit to actually act.

I'm not holding my breath......

He said what he was going to do, now he is passing the buck to congress to fix for him(or take the heat)~wtf just like he tried to do w NKorea & china..
 
Dear idiot; they all have something to do with DACA. DACA is ONLY supported by a majority when the wording includes LEARN ENGLISH, GOING TO COLLEGE and IN THE MILITARY. This would be a teeny tiny percentage of those who are here ILLEGALLY.

So please stop with the stupid whiny buffoonish drivel and support your claims with something more than "because you say so." Trump was elected on this issue you idiot.

Show me where any of your links discuss DACA at all. They do not. So man up there wimpy. Post something to back your argument at least somewhat intellectually.
 
When I was in back in the 70's they had non-citizens serving...........:palm: Why waste time trying to discuss/educate that fool......

There you go again; acting the buffoon and avoiding debate and the question. You really are a pathetic goon. I am betting you were AF or Navy. They are the only branches that have a bunch of leftist dumbfucks in them.
 
That is a round about rather faggy ass way of saying you never served. Like I said before, this is way over your intellectual level. Pussy.

No; whether or not I served is IRRELEVANT you brain dead boor. I didn't serve; I spent my first 17 years living as an ARMY brat and watching my dad serve in Vietnam. You were still playing with yourself when that went down.

So man up you bag of shit and explain why we should allow ILLEGAL aliens to join the service instead of your whiny buffoonish predictable drivel. Yep, you served in the Navy you big brave dullard....so what?

You wouldn't know intellect if it walked up and slapped you on your empty head.
 
There you go again; acting the buffoon and avoiding debate and the question. You really are a pathetic goon. I am betting you were AF or Navy. They are the only branches that have a bunch of leftist dumbfucks in them.

Which branch did you serve in again? You did not make that clear before.
 
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