Progressive group launches first ad campaign against Dem

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Progressive group launches first ad campaign against Dem


Progressive group launches first ad campaign against Dem


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[FONT=atiza_textregular]A progressive coalition is launching a five-figure targeted ad campaign today against Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan of Ohio, Axios has learned.

  • The groups: Not One Penny, MoveOn, Indivisible, and Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC)
  • Why now: Rep. Ryan broke with the Democratic Party on Thursday when he announced his support for corporate tax cuts, which is a staple of the GOP tax reform plan. The TV and digital ad will run in Ryan's district for one week.
  • Why this matters: Ryan is the first Democrat this coalition has launched an ad campaign against. They deployed a massive, seven-figure ad campaign against 8 Republicans in August.
  • What they're saying: "Big corporations don't pay their fair share of taxes, but Rep. Ryan thinks they need even more tax cuts? That's absurd, and an affront to the voters of his district," said MoveOn.org Chief Communication Officer Nick Berning.



  • "Instead of working to improve the lives of his constituents, he has chosen instead to fight for massive tax cuts for corporations," said Angel Padilla of the Indivisible Project.
  • But Ryan thinks Dems can win 2018 with a business agenda. "To be competitive globally, we have to reduce the corporate tax rate," Ryan told The Hill. "We're just not competitive globally because of that."
  • Ryan doesn't support cuts for wealthy individuals, though,
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  • : "GOP thinks our problems can be solved by cutting taxes for the one %, & their wealth trickling down to the rest of America. It hasn't worked"
  • What's next: "Not One Penny will hold Members of Congress accountable who want to give tax breaks to millionaires, billionaires, or wealthy corporations; Democrat or Republican," a spokesperson for the Not One Penny campaign said.
Big picture: 78% of Americans are concerned that the wealthy do not pay their fair share in taxes, according to recent polling from Not One Penny. Ryan represents Ohio's 13th Congressional district, which has a population of roughly 710,000 and a median household income of just $42,019, according to census data. That socioeconomic stat reflects the criticism coming from these four groups and other Democrats who oppose the GOP tax reform plan, which they view as unfair to middle-class Americans and small businesses.

"Instead of offering the American people a plan for real, job-creating tax reform, President Trump is pushing a billionaires-first, trickle-down tax scheme that hands out massive tax cuts to the wealthiest, at the expense of American families," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, who Ryan challenged for her seat just last year, but lost.




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Tax cuts have never produced wealth for the average American. Saint Reagan tripled the debt, and since that era wages have been stagnant for the middle class, and the tax burden has increasingly shifted towards them. Productivity has maxed out, and where a single income used to be able to sustain a family, it now takes two incomes. Deregulation and tax cuts produce wealth only for the %1.
 
Tax cuts do help corporate shareholders, but we have yet to see any proof that they help the workers. The whole point of tax cuts is to help those who really don't need them. Do they increase employment- absolutely not.
 
What "ideological purity tests" are you talking about?

I'm not sure you understand what a Blue Dog Democrat is.
Being as I was a southern styled Democrat for a good part of my life-I got the definition by living it.

Does the Democratic Party now practice a Big Tent,or is it more interested in driving itself further and further left?
Answer that and you get the ideological purity thing
 
Tax cuts have never produced wealth for the average American. Saint Reagan tripled the debt, and since that era wages have been stagnant for the middle class, and the tax burden has increasingly shifted towards them. Productivity has maxed out, and where a single income used to be able to sustain a family, it now takes two incomes. Deregulation and tax cuts produce wealth only for the %1.

The tax burden has shifted towards the middle class? You talking income taxes?
 
Being as I was a southern styled Democrat for a good part of my life-I got the definition by living it.

Does the Democratic Party now practice a Big Tent,or is it more interested in driving itself further and further left?
Answer that and you get the ideological purity thing

Blue Dog Democrats are the ones who vote with Republicans on various issues.

They are the ones who, back in the 80's worked with Reagan and helped him pass much of his agenda.

So I'm still not sure what "ideological purity" you're talking about.

If any Democrats can be called ideological purists, I think it would be the Yellow Dogs or the Progressives.
 
Corporate America is sitting on trillions in cash. Between 2-3 trillion stashed off-shore. They don't need a tax cut. They have plenty of assets for any expansion. Tax REFORM is needed, not a simple cut.

But reform is too difficult for Trump and the feckless Republican Congress, along with every other issue, so reform isn't in the picture.
 
Being as I was a southern styled Democrat for a good part of my life-I got the definition by living it.

Does the Democratic Party now practice a Big Tent,or is it more interested in driving itself further and further left?
Answer that and you get the ideological purity thing



your ideas are anti democratic fool.

we dont want you back


we want fact based ideas that make sense.


you seek stupid


stay in the republucan party they love stupid lies
 
Blue Dog Democrats are the ones who vote with Republicans on various issues.

They are the ones who, back in the 80's worked with Reagan and helped him pass much of his agenda.

So I'm still not sure what "ideological purity" you're talking about.

If any Democrats can be called ideological purists, I think it would be the Yellow Dogs or the Progressives.

Noise is a clueless retard.
 
Corporate America is sitting on trillions in cash. Between 2-3 trillion stashed off-shore. They don't need a tax cut. They have plenty of assets for any expansion. Tax REFORM is needed, not a simple cut.

But reform is too difficult for Trump and the feckless Republican Congress, along with every other issue, so reform isn't in the picture.

What tax reform would congressional democrats be willing to accept?
 
a sane one designed to increase revenue by properly taxing those who use way more of the infrastructure than the average citizen does.


taxing those who can pay because this country provides them the platform to make that money
 
The tax burden has shifted towards the middle class? You talking income taxes?

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-great-tax-shift/

It’s true that high-income households will pay a higher share of the income tax, at least in the short run. But changes in tax shares are not an accurate way of measuring progressivity. If we reduced everyone’s income tax by 99.9 percent, for example, the shares of income taxes paid would remain constant — but the net result would be highly regressive.

Furthermore, the administration’s argument conveniently omits the estate tax (which is progressive and is slated to be eliminated), the corporate tax (which is progressive and was reduced in the tax cuts), and the payroll tax (which is regressive and was not cut). When all federal taxes are considered, the share paid by high-income households will decrease significantly because of the tax cuts.

So how did the White House manage to convince the public that Bush’s tax cuts were in fact good for the middle class? The cuts did have some provisions that were designed to help the middle class, including a new 10-percent bracket (which means that all households, including low- and middle-income ones, pay a 10-percent rate rather than a 15-percent one on their first dollars of taxable income — $7,000 in taxable income for singles and $14,000 for married couples); an expanded child credit; and tax cuts for married couples. Yet these provisions account for about one-third of the revenue loss from the tax cuts as a whole over a 10-year period.

In other words, the middle-class elements of the tax cuts were just a remarkably successful marketing ploy. They allowed proponents to extol the benefits for carefully selected Americans, disguising the much more regressive and expensive components and confusing the debate.

The ultimate effect of the tax cuts depends in part on how they are eventually financed. There are two options: reductions in other government programs and increases in other taxes. Borrowing indefinitely, the strategy preferred by many policy-makers, is not a long-term solution. That’s because the longer policy-makers wait to pay for the tax cuts — or to give up on the exercise and simply cancel them — the more harm is imposed on the future economy from intervening budget deficits and the more the nation risks a full-blown fiscal crisis.

That danger exists because the deficit-financed tax cuts are, overall, harmful to the country’s economic growth. Tax cuts themselves can have a positive direct effect on the economy; for example, they can reduce marginal tax rates and encourage people to work or save more. But tax cuts also increase the budget deficit, which has an adverse effect on economic growth over the long term because it reduces national savings, one of the key determinants of long-term productivity. Given the structure of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, various studies suggest that the net effect of these cuts is likely to be negative in the long run.

In addition to the losses from reduced economic growth, many families may suffer from increased interest rates on mortgages, car loans, and credit cards, rates that go up because higher budget deficits compete for the funds available for such lending. Conventional estimates suggest that the deficits associated with the Bush tax cuts could eventually raise long-term interest rates by between 0.5 percent and 1.5 percent, which would raise the annual payment on a $150,000 mortgage by between $500 and $2,000. Households that are net borrowers, which are more likely to have modest incomes, suffer from the increase in interest rates. Households that are net lenders, which tend to be higher income, can benefit.

Ultimately, though, continuing to finance the tax cuts by running up the budget deficit will be unsustainable because even the federal government can’t borrow an unlimited amount. In the face of ongoing substantial deficits, financial markets will eventually grow worried about whether the government will be able to repay the borrowed funds. To avoid a fiscal crisis, a permanent tax cut has to be financed either with lower spending or higher revenues from other sources. Both options have problems. Paying for the full tax cuts in 2014 by reducing government spending would be catastrophic, both substantively and politically: It would require a 48-percent cut in Social Security benefits, complete elimination of the federal part of Medicaid, or an 80-percent cut in all domestic discretionary spending (such as for environmental protection, education, and health research). The overall effect would be more harmful to lower- and middle-class Americans, who depend on those programs, than the direct effect of the tax cuts themselves. Alternatively, the tax cuts could be financed by a 34-percent increase in payroll taxes or by more than doubling the tax on corporations.

If the Bush White House hadn’t been ideologically driven toward high-end tax cuts, it might have taken some important steps with the money instead. Rather than cutting taxes primarily for wealthy families, we could have financed substantial aid to the states, which would have obviated the need for recession-driven tuition increases and spending cutbacks. We could have invested heavily in children, for example, by fully funding Head Start. We could have provided more progressive tax cuts. Or we could have done all three — and still had money left over to reduce the deficit.

We also could have averted the coming crisis in Social Security. Over the next 75 years, the tax cuts will cost about three times the projected 75-year actuarial deficit in Social Security. As a result, even if we had not enacted only the most regressive components of the tax cuts, we would have had more than enough revenue to eliminate the entire Social Security deficit for the next 75 years. That wouldn’t necessarily be the best course, given the competing needs for revenue, but it does dramatically illustrate the lost opportunities. It also underscores why Alan Greenspan’s proposal to pay for the tax cuts with reduced Social Security benefits will never add up: Have you ever tried to save $3 from $1?

The president likes to portray his tax cuts as painless and simply “giving people their money back.” Tens of millions of people, however, gain little from the tax cuts — and will eventually be hurt by the costs imposed on the budget and the economy.

For now, too many policy-makers are pretending that the tax cuts represent that ever-elusive free lunch. The reality is that the bill from the tax cuts will come due one way or another. And almost any way it plays out — other than simply repealing the tax cuts or allowing them to expire as officially scheduled — the vast majority of Americans will pay.
 
a sane one designed to increase revenue by properly taxing those who use way more of the infrastructure than the average citizen does.

taxing those who can pay because this country provides them the platform to make that money

Bingo.

Stop handing out tax breaks to people who, no matter how insanely wealthy they are, still cry poor mouth about having to pay taxes.

If you are CEO of a company that is making enough profit to pay it's stockholders a reasonable dividend and it's board of directors a ridiculously generous salary and benefits package, then that company is NOT being over taxed or forced into being non competitive due to our corporate tax rate, which few if any corporations actually pay anyway.
 
Your boys are in charge, pal. The onus is on them.

But it ain't gonna happen, is it?

Ultimately they will need 60 votes to pass it so it's going to have to get some democratic approval. What would tax reform look like that could get democratic approval?
 
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