when cops dont' care about the law

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...her-for-doing-her-job/?utm_term=.9d15e496f141

By all accounts, the head nurse at the University of Utah Hospital’s burn unit was professional and restrained when she told a Salt Lake City police detective he wasn’t allowed to draw blood from a badly injured patient.

The detective didn’t have a warrant, first off. And the patient wasn’t conscious, so he couldn’t give consent. Without that, the detective was barred from collecting blood samples — not just by hospital policy, but by basic constitutional law.

Still, Detective Jeff Payne insisted that he be let in to take the blood, saying the nurse would be arrested and charged if she refused.

Nurse Alex Wubbels politely stood her ground. She got her supervisor on the phone so Payne could hear the decision loud and clear. “Sir,” said the supervisor, “you’re making a huge mistake because you’re threatening a nurse.”

Payne snapped. He seized hold of the nurse, shoved her out of the building and cuffed her hands behind her back. A bewildered Wubbels screamed “help me” and “you’re assaulting me” as the detective forced her into an unmarked car and accused her of interfering with an investigation.

The explosive July 26 encounter was captured on officers’ body cameras and is now the subject of an internal investigation by the police department, as the Salt Lake Tribune reported Thursday. The videos were released by the Tribune, the Deseret News and other local media.

On top of that, Wubbels was right. The U.S. Supreme Court has explicitly ruled that blood can only be drawn from drivers for probable cause, with a warrant.
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Althea said:
The idiot detective has been 'reassigned' with pay. They should bust him back to patrol. He needed that guy's blood alcohol level, and he needed it now. Why the hell should he care about the law, hospital protocol, or that nurse's liability?
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he should be fired and jailed immediately. the law is very clear on the blood draw issue because of the supreme court last year. i'd have shot the pig
 
SmarterthanYou said:
he should be fired and jailed immediately. the law is very clear on the blood draw issue because of the supreme court last year. i'd have shot the pig
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He strong armed a woman. If I were that nurse, and he grabbed me, I would have put him down, and demanded that one of the patrol cops arrest him for assault.
 
I would have sent over to the lab and gotten a vail of blood from a random patient that they were done testing.

Oops.
 
Althea said:
The idiot detective has been 'reassigned' with pay. They should bust him back to patrol. He needed that guy's blood alcohol level, and he needed it now. Why the hell should he care about the law, hospital protocol, or that nurse's liability?
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Socialist Gov't Unions :palm:
 
Althea said:
He strong armed a woman. If I were that nurse, and he grabbed me, I would have put him down, and demanded that one of the patrol cops arrest him for assault.
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none of the cops on that scene were 'good' cops. they all allowed an obviously unlawful arrest happen because it was one of their own, 'just following orders'.

I'd have shot him for attempted kidnapping
 
Lovebug said:
To sum it up, never ever make a mistake, according to all the 150% perfect people who judge without knowing not even half the story.
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We all know the story. Hospitals have protocols. Just as police precincts do. If you marched into a precinct and demanded that they break protocol, what do you think would happen?

This is the LAW. It isn't just some nurse's whim. She's LEGALLY LIABLE if she breaks these laws.

That detective should be walking a beat.
 
Althea said:
We all know the story. Hospitals have protocols. Just as police precincts do. If you marched into a precinct and demanded that they break protocol, what do you think would happen?

This is the LAW. It isn't just some nurse's whim. She's LEGALLY LIABLE if she breaks these laws.

That detective should be walking a beat.
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I am not defending, but think that
a-we are not lawyers
b-we don't have all the facts

SmarterthanYou said:
should GOVERNMENT be allowed mistakes when it can cost money or lives??????
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Stay with the topic.
 
Lovebug said:
To sum it up, never ever make a mistake, according to all the 150% perfect people who judge without knowing not even half the story.
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So a decltective isn't supposed to know of the law, even the Bill of Rights?
I call bullshit on your post.
 
Lovebug said:
I am not defending, but think that
a-we are not lawyers
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you don't need to be a lawyer to know the law. remember, ignorance of the law is NO EXCUSE!!!! you support that axiom, right?
Lovebug said:
b-we don't have all the facts
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the only fact you need to know is that the US Supreme Court, last year, decided that ALL blood draws require a warrant. end of story.

Lovebug said:
Stay with the topic.
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read the post I quoted and you'll see i'm on topic. thanks.
 
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