Fifty inches

moon2012 said:
No- not Trump's waistband size. 50" of rain on Houston with the threat of 50 more to come.

This year has seen a huge increase in climatic disasters all around the world. What do the Deniers make of it ?

Are they ' Acts of God ' ? If so, will the insurers refuse to pay out ?
If not- who caused them ?

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/houston-forecast-unprecedented-50-inches-of-rain-2017-08-27

Too much for your poor wee heads ?
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The cause of Hurricane Harvey's record rainfall was a pair of high pressure domes that blocked the storm, allowing it to dump massive amounts of rain on Houston.

Religionists of the traditional sort invoke God. Religionists of the secular sort, invoke climate change.

While one or both may be true, they are both articles of faith since neither proposition can be proved scientifically.
 
moon2012 said:
What do the Deniers make of it ?
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We don't deny climate is changing, it has done so long before Al Gore was born. We don't get hysteric every time nature does what nature does.
We deal with the disaster, comfort the victims and help anyway we can, instead of grandstanding for political gain.
 
Lets get a bit serious here instead of throwing cow poop as usual. Can we all admit that climate changes, and with it come changes in storm patterns?
Years ago, after Katrina, predictions were rather negative. We were to have an increasing number of hurricanes like Katrina soon to follow, as well as other disasters, much of which didn't come to fruition. But we know it can happen at any time. For a while we get come complacent, thinking all is well, just to find out that nature throws another curve ball and we are scrambling once again.
We can also agree that, with an ever increasing population and the related consumption, we put more stress on nature, which in return self regulates.
We do our best to relief that stress with innovations and regulations, but we have to realize that nothing gets done overnight. We have to introduce these innovations, solar, wind power, more fuel efficiency etc, slowly and cost effectively, making sure other nations follow, instead of asking us, here in the US, to do it all, while exempting others.
So here is my problem with OPs like this. Climate changers want to beat us over the head with a raindrop every time nature does what nature does best. Instead of calm reasoning, they accuse, they belittle, they lecture, they jump around all hysterically and point upward yelling " the sky is falling". That is the problem I have with all of it.
Be reasonable. Change will happen. Once we have filled people's basic needs, like jobs, actually affordable HC, decent incomes to afford trends in energy efficiency, people will be much more receptive to current innovations and those that are yet to come.
So please let us be a bit more reasonable when discussing such issues and let both sides speak, and listen to both sides. Thanks. I'll get off the soap box now.
 
Lovebug said:
Lets get a bit serious here instead of throwing cow poop as usual. Can we all admit that climate changes, and with it come changes in storm patterns?
Years ago, after Katrina, predictions were rather negative. We were to have an increasing number of hurricanes like Katrina soon to follow, as well as other disasters, much of which didn't come to fruition. But we know it can happen at any time. For a while we get come complacent, thinking all is well, just to find out that nature throws another curve ball and we are scrambling once again.
We can also agree that, with an ever increasing population and the related consumption, we put more stress on nature, which in return self regulates.
We do our best to relief that stress with innovations and regulations, but we have to realize that nothing gets done overnight. We have to introduce these innovations, solar, wind power, more fuel efficiency etc, slowly and cost effectively, making sure other nations follow, instead of asking us, here in the US, to do it all, while exempting others.
So here is my problem with OPs like this. Climate changers want to beat us over the head with a raindrop every time nature does what nature does best. Instead of calm reasoning, they accuse, they belittle, they lecture, they jump around all hysterically and point upward yelling " the sky is falling". That is the problem I have with all of it.
Be reasonable. Change will happen. Once we have filled people's basic needs, like jobs, actually affordable HC, decent incomes to afford trends in energy efficiency, people will be much more receptive to current innovations and those that are yet to come.
So please let us be a bit more reasonable when discussing such issues and let both sides speak, and listen to both sides. Thanks. I'll get off the soap box now.
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serious question, did you just burn one?
 
Lovebug said:
Lets get a bit serious here instead of throwing cow poop as usual. Can we all admit that climate changes, and with it come changes in storm patterns?
Years ago, after Katrina, predictions were rather negative. We were to have an increasing number of hurricanes like Katrina soon to follow, as well as other disasters, much of which didn't come to fruition. But we know it can happen at any time. For a while we get come complacent, thinking all is well, just to find out that nature throws another curve ball and we are scrambling once again.
We can also agree that, with an ever increasing population and the related consumption, we put more stress on nature, which in return self regulates.
We do our best to relief that stress with innovations and regulations, but we have to realize that nothing gets done overnight. We have to introduce these innovations, solar, wind power, more fuel efficiency etc, slowly and cost effectively, making sure other nations follow, instead of asking us, here in the US, to do it all, while exempting others.
So here is my problem with OPs like this. Climate changers want to beat us over the head with a raindrop every time nature does what nature does best. Instead of calm reasoning, they accuse, they belittle, they lecture, they jump around all hysterically and point upward yelling " the sky is falling". That is the problem I have with all of it.
Be reasonable. Change will happen. Once we have filled people's basic needs, like jobs, actually affordable HC, decent incomes to afford trends in energy efficiency, people will be much more receptive to current innovations and those that are yet to come.
So please let us be a bit more reasonable when discussing such issues and let both sides speak, and listen to both sides. Thanks. I'll get off the soap box now.
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People aren't taking it seriously, it is why concerned people, rant, rave, scream, beat people over the head with it. If we had, maybe, cities like Houston as they built would take into consideration heavily flooding and implemented more flood control measures.
 
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