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A majority of Americans also want Russia investigated. They also disapprove of Trump.
But you don't care as much about those #'s.
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A majority of Americans also want Russia investigated. They also disapprove of Trump.
But you don't care as much about those #'s.
Do you support the Confedracy, do you think the statues should stay up?Not just trump supporters:
A majority of Americans support the statues staying up. Many believe for historical reasons. Not just trump supporters, not just racists. Normal everyday americans.
btw, when and where did you Trumptards learn this new buzzword "virtue signaling". It's like you all started using it as the same time. Did some lonely, resentful, basement dwelling rightwing blogger think it up and you all began parroting him?
As for Russia, you have no skin in the game, and it didn't even occur to you to become Putin's submissive gimp until Trump started needing robust defense concerning his nexus with Russia. So I do not believe your alleged interest in the psychology and geopolics of Putin actually has anything to do at all with Putin. It is all about an emotional need to defend your hero, Donald J. Drumpf.
I actually have skin in the game regarding Russia, and I have spent a lifetime hoping that liberals and liberal reformers prevail in Russia, and that Russian can achieve a measure of liberal democracy, while still holding onto the traditionalist and conservative cultural influences that make them Russian.
Sure I care. re: russia, sure lets have the investigation and exornerate him. I'm not sweating it.
re: disapprovals, I mean I have never denied the fake deep state media is successfully harming him. I do disagree with some of the outliers and think he's probably closer to 40, but that's just my own opinion. But I have never pretended he's above 50% or something.
You on the other hand assume supporting the statues makes one a trump supporter or a racist, well if that's the case this nation has a lot more racist trump supporters than you thought, to the tune of 62%.
The deep state media has lead you to believe everyone is against these statues except for the KKK. That's a lie. Americans (normal, everyday americans) support these statues and want them to remain up.
you are old so you can be forgiven, but it's a very common word on social media, to describe people firing out a quippy meaningless tweet to show how good they are. Get with the times.
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Where did I say the bolded?
You have been doing this a lot (like when you said I claimed every Trump supporter is KKK). It's careless, and undermines any other argument you're trying to make.
I have said many times this past week that I'm not personally offended by the statues, but I get why some are.
i seriously think the media just doesnt want to go back to russia anymore because they will be forced to discuss the MB issue.
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He's right that many conservative posters started saying it on the same day recently.
I have said this elsewhere, but I will reiterate.
I love bashing the south for losing the civil war, and I have done so often. In the past I have never minded people taking down these statues (I wouldn't say I am proactive in my desire for them to come down, but I don't mind when they do). It's nothing I lose sleep over. So, to answer your question - In a vacuum do I oppose these statues coming down? No I do not.
My issue is one of consistency (remove some statues of people out of sync with modern values but not others), slippery slope (people are already wanting to take down Teddy, washington, jefferson), which I WOULD oppose, as they are the foundation of our history and erasing them is the equivalent of having a memory hole, and finally ignorance on the part of the OP and others that assume there can't be decent people that want the statues up for perfectly valid reasons.
well then you can thank me as I brought it to JPP. I was 100% the first one. Maybe I am a trendsetter?
But it is a very popular word being used more and more all over twitter and facebook. You realy can't miss it. Especially if you are young and hip like myself.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling#Notable_pejorative_uses
Ann Coulter[edit]
In an interview with The Daily Beast's Jay Michaelson, on September 17, 2015, Ann Coulter used the term when defending her tweet that followed a Republican debate for the 2016 Presidential nomination, where she wrote "How many f--ing Jews do these people think there are in the United States?"[17]
Coulter held that the many mentions of support for Israel made by the Republican candidates was virtue-signalling to ensure that Jews supported the candidates and by overuse of this signalling the GOP was descending into pointless pandering. She stated "My point was this whole culture of virtue-signalling where debates are about nothing. Look, Republicans all agree 100 percent that we are pro-Israel, pro-Life, pro-gun. So why do we spend so much time on these issues? It's just pandering, so who are they pandering to? ...My tweet was about Republicans and the pandering. It wasn’t about Israel, it wasn’t about Jews. It's what Republicans are thinking in their little pea brains. I could say the same thing about evangelicals. Who are you pandering to? A lot of it is to Sheldon Adelson and the evangelicals... This kind of suck-uppery is humiliating. ...There is no doubt that the Republican Party is the party of Israel and of Life. So why keep sucking up on Israel?"[17]
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In a September 21, 2015, article Alt-right website VDARE noted the withdrawal of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker from the 2016 GOP Presidential nomination race. They noted "Scott Walker fell back on 'Reaganism', which nowadays has less and less to do with the historical Ronald Reagan anyway. Among Republicans, referencing Reagan is now a form of 'virtue signalling'. We don’t face the same issues as Ronald Reagan faced in the 1980s, and we would best emulate Reagan by taking the National Question [Race, Ethnicity, and Identity In the 21st Century] by the horns and going with that. Maybe if Scott Walker had made the National Question his main platform, the candidate might have done better."[18]
In a September 21, 2015, article Alt-right website VDARE noted the withdrawal of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker from the 2016 GOP Presidential nomination race. They noted "Scott Walker fell back on 'Reaganism', which nowadays has less and less to do with the historical Ronald Reagan anyway. Among Republicans, referencing Reagan is now a form of 'virtue signalling'. We don’t face the same issues as Ronald Reagan faced in the 1980s, and we would best emulate Reagan by taking the National Question [Race, Ethnicity, and Identity In the 21st Century] by the horns and going with that. Maybe if Scott Walker had made the National Question his main platform, the candidate might have done better."[18]
corporate media beholden to the same special interests and money men as the politicians are. They are all on the same team. And I can shower you with examples of the media colluding with the clintons, asking them to help write stories, talking about how they are reluctant to cover things (such as the tarmac meeting) etc. The media is 100% state propaganda.
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Thank you.
I was hoping for something as lazy & basically meaningless as "fake news" or "deep state" that righties could respond with when they had no other argument.
Exactly, I'm on social media, the term came into use in the last couple of years but, it has become the buzz term as of late overused by the right, like Snowflake.
I do see the difference and I largely agree with you. However your mistake is that MOST also want lee to stay. The poll that I posted is specifically about confederate statues, not all statues. A majority of americans want the confederate statues to stay.
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That's fine, but this strikes me as a sort of "tyranny of the majority" issue. I understand why the wounds of slavery are still pretty raw for some people - I think there is more of a case to err on the side of not making those worse, even though they're in the minority.
Does the majority that you cite feel THAT strongly about keeping statues like that? The "erasing history" argument is weak. You can say that we shouldn't be into making value judgments like that, but we do all the time when it comes to the rights & considerations of the minority.
The term "virtue signaling" is just laziness and lack of critical thinking. Anytime a lib supports something a con is against, it's virtue signaling. It's lost all meaning, they way they use it indiscriminately.