America Fixates On 500 Assholes Instead Of Healing

Lee assured Acton that the South accepted the de facto results of the war and “the extinction of slavery,” but he was concerned that an overly powerful federal government would prove to be a threat to “the rights and authority reserved in the states and the people” and would result in a nation that was “sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home.”

Lee believed in “the right of each state to prescribe for itself the qualification of suffrage,” and he pointed out that if the Union was “inviolable and perpetual,” and if it was wrong for a state to secede, then it was equally wrong to prevent a state from resuming its full role and having representation in Washington.

Now that slavery had been ended by the war and the 13th Amendment, Lee hoped the Constitution “may be handed down to succeeding generations in the form we received it from our forefathers.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/22/lees-life-complex-after-war/
 
Lee assured Acton that the South accepted the de facto results of the war and “the extinction of slavery,” but he was concerned that an overly powerful federal government would prove to be a threat to “the rights and authority reserved in the states and the people” and would result in a nation that was “sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home.”

Lee believed in “the right of each state to prescribe for itself the qualification of suffrage,” and he pointed out that if the Union was “inviolable and perpetual,” and if it was wrong for a state to secede, then it was equally wrong to prevent a state from resuming its full role and having representation in Washington.

Now that slavery had been ended by the war and the 13th Amendment, Lee hoped the Constitution “may be handed down to succeeding generations in the form we received it from our forefathers.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/22/lees-life-complex-after-war/

Southern states wanted to keep slaves, so they concocted states rights. It does the same thing then as it does now. Allow racist to control what happens in their state.

You support racist and racism, racist.
 
Southern states wanted to keep slaves, so they concocted states rights. It does the same thing then as it does now. Allow racist to control what happens in their state.

You support racist and racism, racist.
there is no such things as "states rights".
There is only the 10th and federalism-not "concocted".

The quote was from when Lee was president of Washington College
( after his death it became Washington and Lee college)- there was no slavery after the civil war
 
there is no such things as "states rights".
There is only the 10th and federalism-not "concocted".

The quote was from when Lee was president of Washington College
( after his death it became Washington and Lee college)- there was no slavery after the civil war

Because the racist lost. You're boy lost the war....he's a failure not a hero.
 
Because the racist lost. You're boy lost the war....he's a failure not a hero.
he's a man who was honorable in battle, accepted the loss/Constitutional results , and most importantly advocated real reconstruction -not the carpetbagging type that was forced on the south by the haters
 
he's a man who was honorable in battle, accepted the loss/Constitutional results , and most importantly advocated real reconstruction -not the carpetbagging type that was forced on the south by the haters

Wrong, he was a loser who wanted to keep slavery going because he was too fucking lazy to actually do work himself.

The only thing forced on the south was to free the slaves.

You hate that, you support racism and oppression......you're a racist.
 
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Doesn't absolve him from being a racist who fought a war to keep slavery, and lost.
Sorry, wasn't directing this at you, there is no excusing his behavior, ever, he took up arms against this country to perserve slavery,

I just wanted to point out to people who support these monuments that even Lee did not support the preservation of the flag and didn't support monuments to their side of the war.
 
Lee's thought on the Confederate flag

"Fold it up and put it away"

He also thought Confederate monuments were a bad idea.
contemporaneous to the end of the war it was best not to continue any vestiges.
But the monuments did go up over time.
They should be looked at for what they are -it's the ties to KKK/nazi/"southern heritage" that distort.

If you've never walked a battlefield it's difficult to put into words- it's not pride or even reverence;
it's respect for the men.
 
Wrong, he was a loser who wanted to keep slavery going because he was too fucking lazy to actually do work himself.

The only thing forced on the south was to free the slaves.

You hate that, you support racism and oppression......you're a racist.
you are unbelievably ignorant combined with vile unfounded attributions. Truly your thoughts are cancerous. idiot.
 
contemporaneous to the end of the war it was best not to continue any vestiges.
But the monuments did go up over time.
They should be looked at for what they are -it's the ties to KKK/nazi/"southern heritage" that distort.

If you've never walked a battlefield it's difficult to put into words- it's not pride or even reverence;
it's respect for the men.
I do not respect men who fought to keep slavery and who warred against our Union, just as I do not support Nazis. I respect the soldiers of the North who fought to free the slaves, those are the men I respect.
 
contemporaneous to the end of the war it was best not to continue any vestiges.
But the monuments did go up over time.
They should be looked at for what they are -it's the ties to KKK/nazi/"southern heritage" that distort.

If you've never walked a battlefield it's difficult to put into words- it's not pride or even reverence;
it's respect for the men.

If you have never walked in a Black mans shoes, you can't possibly speak for them or tell them how to feel.

Blacks have been on the battlefield since we were stolen from our native lands and brought here by white men.

Not sure if you ever had to battle for anything.
 
I do not respect men who fought to keep slavery and who warred against our Union, just as I do not support Nazis. I respect the soldiers of the North who fought to free the slaves, those are the men I respect.
you lack perspective, have no desire to open your mind. You don't even understand Confederate are honorary US vets.

Conflating Confederate with nazi's is something neo-nazis do..congrats
 
If you have never walked in a Black mans shoes, you can't possibly speak for them or tell them how to feel.

Blacks have been on the battlefield since we were stolen from our native lands and brought here by white men.

Not sure if you ever had to battle for anything.
i do not attempt to speak for black people.
I do not all you out for any other reasons then your grotesque ignorance coupled with vile intent
 
you are unbelievably ignorant combined with vile unfounded attributions. Truly your thoughts are cancerous. idiot.

So, it's ok for you to think Blacks are lazy fucks that only want to take from the government, but I can't call out a true lazy fuck who gained his wealth and status off the backs of Blacks?
 
So, it's ok for you to think Blacks are lazy fucks that only want to take from the government, but I can't call out a true lazy fuck who gained his wealth and status off the backs of Blacks?
your premise is as flawed as it is ignorant..go back to race hustling..it's all you know
 
you lack perspective, have no desire to open your mind. You don't even understand Confederate are honorary US vets.

Conflating Confederate with nazi's is something neo-nazis do..congrats
I don't consider them honorary veterans, I consider them traitors. I have no desire to open my mind to slavers and those who supported them and fought for the rights to own other humans. It is a disgusting footnote in our history.
 
i do not attempt to speak for black people.
I do not all you out for any other reasons then your grotesque ignorance coupled with vile intent

You do try to speak for Blacks, and tell us what we need to do, and how to feel. Every time you defend racism, that's what your doing. you are telling us we don't know what were talking about because racism doesn't exist.

You are doing it in this very thread. Trying to convince others Lee is a hero and anyone who disagrees is grotesque and ignorant.

What is your solution to the rise of white supremacy in this country? How are we going to stop what happened Friday and Saturday from happening again?
 
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