impotent old man threatens NKorea if they make threats~unlike the 1,000's in the past

Thing1 said:
Drool some more. And don't tell me who shouldn't be allowed to vote.

Investigating "election meddling" - as you now seem to admit - is not warmongering.

NK is a threat, but Trump's rhetoric is - typically - reckless and not well thought-out. But you'll praise whatever he does.
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what would you do in regards to NK?
 
I can't really recall more incendiary, warmongering rhetoric than "fire & fury."

But all of these righties who have been so cautious & warned us so much about sending the wrong messages are now all on board. "Fire and fury" away! What a dramatic turnabout for them.
 
Thing1 said:
You're conveniently ignoring your endless talk about "Russiaphobia" pushing us to the "brink of war"...and now you think "fire & fury" is the height of good strategy.

You're an immense hypocrite.
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don't be a dunce. Trump's rhetoric is just that. It's a warning

I said cold war 2 is inviting a tripwire war -the brinksmanship
is more then rhetoric when it involves flybys etc. we are not buzzing NK.

The potential for war is there- it's been there for what..50 years? we manage it by the DMZ
There are some similarities to the DMZ and NATO- but not necessarily NATO expansion that forces Putin's hand.

I fact we have been trying to give lil Kim wiggle room ( unlike Russia)..but it's not working

You need to learn the terms or use your own terms judiciously
 
see, intellectually I know a nuclear war is bad and we shouldn't do it. If a pollster called me up I would even say I was against it. It's really not justifiable in any way unless we are being directly (and credibly) threatened.

But...

I still want to see it happen.

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If you can understand the above statement, then you get me and my overarching philosophy on a lot of things that can read very contradictory at times.
 
Look, Obama did this,

Once upon a time all an American President had to do was speak, his words were heard as fair, resolved, and taken as to mean what he said.

Obama made so many unanswered threats, promises. Was such a lying sneaky little man that Kim Jung, Putin, The Mullohs of Iran, ISIS, and a lot of bad players have to be retrained. Like Assad was.
Havn't seen any chemical weapons attacks on civilians lately hey?
 
I would love it if an asteroid was heading for us too and we had the existence of our species on the line. That is excitement. That is living. Who wouldn't want to have that shit going on? It would be awesome. I'd still want to win in the end but the adrenaline rush would be tops.
 
anatta said:
Thing has become a whiner indeed..he doesn't even try to contribute anymore
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Aw - u mad because I easily called out your lame hypocrisy?

You really are an unreal hypocrite. The song & dance routine you're doing to try to justify months of railing against Russiaphobia and "rhetoric" and then thinking "fire & fury" is brilliant strategy is something to behold.

You have zero credibility. Zero.
 
I'd let North Korea threaten all they want and have nuclear capabilities, they aren't going to use them, if they do, their country will be annialated. Un knows this, it is all posturing, it is what men do. Think of all the countries that have nuclear weapons and the reality is we are the only ones who have used it.
 
Literal Vampire Potbelly Goblin said:
I would love it if an asteroid was heading for us too and we had the existence of our species on the line. That is excitement. That is living. Who wouldn't want to have that shit going on? It would be awesome. I'd still want to win in the end but the adrenaline rush would be tops.
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You say these things because you're immature. You still have growing up to do.
 
anatta said:
not a world war, and this isn't MAD -that was a 2 way street, against rational actors.
We are flying B-2 stealth bombers over NK and along the DMZ. Frankly I haven't looked at the artillery surrounding Seoule.

You have to pick apart his defenses,and counter his offensive ASAP while taking out the ICBM's first strike.
I can't war game that;but surely this is being done.
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They aren't surrounding but are all north of Seoul at least 35 miles away. The vast majority are not within range as this article describes. Seoul also has very many air raid shelters designed specifically for civilians to avoid shells and bombs. That's not to say that people wouldn't die, they would but it wouldn't be anywhere near hundreds of thousands more likely several thousand. However there would be significant infrastructure damage until the artillery and rocket barrages were destroyed.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...a-annihilate-seoul-its-artillery-20345?page=2
 
Lol. Nice try hack.

I wonder what Hillary Cunton would be doing right now? Falling on her face? Passing out in public? Telling NK that she is gonna send Bill over there?
 
Thing1 said:
Aw - u mad because I easily called out your lame hypocrisy?

You really are an unreal hypocrite. The song & dance routine you're doing to try to justify months of railing against Russiaphobia and "rhetoric" and then thinking "fire & fury" is brilliant strategy is something to behold.

You have zero credibility. Zero.
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the Russiaphobia isn't just rhetoric you moron.
Sanctions/NATO expansion/militarization are "ginned up" by Russiaphobia -does that sound familiar?
Russiaphobia has destroyed US/Russian relations

But the situation w/NK is extant with or without the rhetoric.
rhetoric doesn't increase or decrease the threats -it's just a byproduct of events.
 
anatta said:
Guam is a much easier target-just by distance .
so the question is he irrational or a 'rational state actor'?

Have you seen some of the propaganda films? look at these postage stamps

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he stays in business with anti-US propaganda..you have to ass u me he's irrational-too dangerous to do otherwise
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It's an easier target but it's also a de-escalation in rhetoric.

Trump would catch grief for it [perhaps rightfully so] for putting up a bluff red line just to see how Bowl Cut responds to it---as a way of gauging his sanity. The response spells 'rational', imo.

Not saying that's what Trump is up to, just speculating.
 
Corazón said:
They aren't surrounding but are all north of Seoul at least 35 miles away. The vast majority are not within range as this article describes. Seoul also has very many air raid shelters designed specifically for civilians to avoid shells and bombs. That's not to say that people wouldn't die, they would but it wouldn't be anywhere near hundreds of thousands more likely several thousand. However there would be significant infrastructure damage until the artillery and rocket barrages were destroyed.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...a-annihilate-seoul-its-artillery-20345?page=2
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thanks so very much for the info..I'll look at it. time to start digging into the details..again thanks
 
anatta said:
the Russiaphobia isn't just rhetoric you moron.
Sanctions/NATO expansion/militarization are "ginned up" by Russiaphobia -does that sound familiar?
Russiaphobia has destroyed US/Russian relations

But the situation w/NK is extant with or without the rhetoric.
rhetoric doesn't increase or decrease the threats -it's just a byproduct of events.
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Do you think Trump's "fire & fury" is sound, well reasoned strategy?
 
Thing1 said:
You say these things because you're immature. You still have growing up to do.
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Look I wouldn't want a train to go off the rails and smash into a gas station but if I was driving down the street and I see a train flying through the air I am stopping to watch the whole thing unfold.

You'd watch too :)
 
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