George Will speaks truth to his party
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He thrives on it. It's the only thing he understands.
i have ranted about eminent domain many times on this board. I agree with you on the kelo thing. But it is what it is, we got a great judge under trump and if nevertrumpers won out post-nomination the court would have been lost forever. We would have lost scalias seat, gingsberg no doubt steps down under hillary as well instead of us getting a chance that she might die. breyer steps down too and kennedy also goes (we'll prob still get kennedy's seat). it would have been a disaster.
again the trump hate is perfectly understandable, but once it was between corrupt killing clinton and trump when it comes to 1/3rd of our government, you gotta go with the pussy grabber.
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bush and trump have very little in common on a philosophical or political level. you are a political dunce to think otherwise. Stop living in the aughts, get with modern times bitch. The conservatives and republicans have drastically changed in many areas. Bush was a globalist neo-con that believed in open borders and free trade and nationbuilding. Trump is a protectionist and anti-globalist that wants to turn money inward on america. Bush has WAY more in common with hillary clinton than trump. That's why the bushes voted for her. It is you that's on bush's side now, whether you realize it or not. What's the saying? Politics make strange bedfellows. Indeed.
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Something I've heard time and again from rpub voters.
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Up is down and down is up. Like him or not, Trump tapped into something that nobody else had the foresight to see.
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History won't be your final judge.
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I think Douchebag Donald has a lot in common with Agosto Pinochet.
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Could be but one thing for sure... he's not your daddy's republican.
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Damn right. My dad voted for Gerald Ford, and likes to joke that it's because he can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
Half right. The Republican party voted for the retrenchment xenophobe isolationist noise maker. Trump's integrity or commitment to that case is doubtful. He has shown a willingness to spin on a dime already. Both parties have been majority free trade for several generations. And words like nationbuilding have built in overbreadth. It's truthful application is that when the US uses force it attempts to clean the mess by insisting a democracy replace the autocrat. It's not going around willy-nilly toppling everything it sees. Neither is free trade without limitations. We certainly have bilateral agreements and sanctions and import levies imposed by us and on us. So those items are a matter of emphasis, rhetoric and particular goals rather than nonnegotiable policy implemented everywhere at once. Only Trump was so devious or stupid to use categorical language in all his promises and goals which simply ensures he will be proven a liar in chief. I agree partially on the comparison of Trump vis a vis Hillary and Bush II. Hillary does not have more in common with Bush than Trump in a host of domestic items like consumer protections, the judiciary, military spending, social security, public finance and tax. The Bushes voted for Hillary, like all never Trump people, by the sheer revulsion of his bigotry, lack of statesmanship and complete lack of competence he displayed on any presidential skill set, in addition to ridiculous hairbrained schemes like the great southern Mexican wall of china lie.
Many people simply did not want the office degraded by a clown in chief, and that is exactly what you voted for, and we against.
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Every trumper is a N4T.
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I have no problem with Gorsuch. I knew I was getting a conservative, and Trump didn't pick a jerk idiot image of himself or some TV clown. All in all, better than I expected.
I'm pretty conservative, or formerly was, but I appear liberal because Republicans lurched to the extreme far right and supplied the leadership with dumbasses like Trump, Palin, Kid Rock and Bush II.
I deaffiliated when they became the stupid party, much like Will.
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Every trumper is a N4T.
As long as he doesn't kowtow to the religious right by trying to overturn Roe v Wade or forcing religious education into public schools etc, etc, I don't really care if he rules in favor of the right in cases involving gay wedding cakes or transgender bathroom use or whatever.
Actually, I think the right will eventually find themselves more disappointed with Gorsuch than the left will.
I assume he would attack Roe. The prudent angle is to demur to cases involving the issue, thereby punting and screwing the right.
You aren't going to get a Republican that does not take the reverse Roe pledge by inference in his/her written history. If one has the ambition and career trajectory of a Scotus justice,
one has the foresight to plan accordingly. So I was assuming arguendo all the dire social shit that comes with being a Republican nowadays, and assuming that, simply saying
you could have a clown nominated. Gorsuch, all other things aside, at least is a scholar. I thought Trump would nominate Judge Judy. And why wouldn't I think that? He does all kinds
of beyond the pale stupid shit.
Pretty much my story too.
Even my arch conservative father and uber conservative brother couldn't vote for the stupid lying country destroying fucks.
The stupid is all that remains of the right
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Every trumper is a N4T.
I dunno re: Roe.
It's such an established law, he may be unwilling to take on a radical "activist judge" role.