Aetna CEO: Obamacare "cannot be repealed, period"

[Nomad]

Get the federal gubmint out of it. Gubmint overreach is part of the problem right now, it all started with HMOs.

So that's it????

That's your big idea???

Just go back to the fucked up way things were with prices spiraling out of control???

You've got NOTHING.

Nothing but bile, bitterness and hatred for Barack Obama, because he's a black Democrat President with an African sounding name.

People who have nothing worthwhile to say about solutions to problems ought to STFU and quit pissing and shitting their panties about those who are actually trying to do something.

 

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So that's it????

That's your big idea???

Just go back to the fucked up way things were with prices spiraling out of control???

You've got NOTHING.

Nothing but bile, bitterness and hatred for Barack Obama, because he's a black Democrat President with an African sounding name.

People who have nothing worthwhile to say about solutions to problems ought to STFU and quit pissing and shitting their panties about those who are actually trying to do something.

Tell us again how Obamacare is free market when the gobblement forces you to purchase something?

 

[Getin the ring]

Funny how everyone is talking about Obamacares shortcomings


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Isn't that special

 

[Getin the ring]

So that's it????

That's your big idea???

Just go back to the fucked up way things were with prices spiraling out of control???

You've got NOTHING.

Nothing but bile, bitterness and hatred for Barack Obama, because he's a black Democrat President with an African sounding name.

People who have nothing worthwhile to say about solutions to problems ought to STFU and quit pissing and shitting their panties about those who are actually trying to do something.

you really have become this confused angry little man havn't you

 

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you really have become this confused angry little man havn't you

Become? Always has been

Blatant, willful ignorance does that to people. Nomad is exhibit A your honor

 

[Life is Golden]

So that's it????

That's your big idea???

Just go back to the fucked up way things were with prices spiraling out of control???

You've got NOTHING.

Nothing but bile, bitterness and hatred for Barack Obama, because he's a black Democrat President with an African sounding name.

People who have nothing worthwhile to say about solutions to problems ought to STFU and quit pissing and shitting their panties about those who are actually trying to do something.

Prices are still out-of-control and they will get higher in order to pay for all the handouts. It will take a multi-faceted approach to even begin to repair what the disaster called Obamacare caused.

You are the embodiment of bile and hatred since you lost an election.

 

[Nomad]

Tell us again how Obamacare is free market when the gobblement forces you to purchase something?

Rather than having the govt completely manage and fund health care, aka "single payer", the idea was to involve the free market insurance industry to manage individual policies while the govt would provide financial assistance for those who needed it.

A conservative idea that the Republicans supported before they didn't.

The govt forces you to buy car insurance too.

Are you going to tell us that car insurance companies aren't part of the free market?

 

[Bigdog]

Why are your favorite socialist countries, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Russia and China missing from your chart?

How much does "malpractice insurance" affect the cost in the U.S.?

Does the chart include the costs of covering a 3,000 mile wide area with a dispersed population ... such as medivac choppers and ambulances?

Does it adjust for the Lifestyles of the countries citizens ... such as obesity caused diseases?

Are the costs of innovation and invention, research and development included?

How much of the costs are due to regulaitons?

 

[Althea]

Of source he doesn't want single payer. He is in the business of making a profit off selling insurance. He's the CEO of a large private insurance company, with a vested interest in lobbying against single payer.

Other than that...

I assume that means you agree with the Aenta CEO that Obamacare is not going to be repealed, and fixing any shortcomings it has would be relatively easy.

http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/pay...ni-highest-paid-health-insurance-ceo-at-27-9m

Bertolini is now the highest-earning CEO among the five largest health insurers. Previously CEO pay had topped out at $17.3 million. Bertolini netted $24.8 million exercising stock options and realizing gains on restricted stock, according to the Courant. An annual company proxy statement details that Bertolini owns 1,162,540 exercisable options, some of which were set to expire in 2016.

Stripping away the nonsense from message board warriors, politicians, and many who profit from the health insurance industry....the issue is simple.


You cannot demand that insurers cover pre existing conditions, 26 year olds, a plethora of preventive procedures at no additional OOP, and have a maximum OOP/year without compensating them for these new costs.

In exchange for the demands above, the Feds guaranteed insurers financial aid in the event that claims became overwhelming. The cost sharing, and risk corridor programs were set up to do just that.

House Republicans de funded the RC program in '14, causing 13 non profit insurers to go out of business. Further, it caused numerous insurers to flee the individual markets in the exchanges.

So getting ACA stabilized is simple. Just put back the guarantees the Feds made to insurers until a viable plan is devised. Any plan must first deal with the insane profits in the pharma industry.

The current 42 member bi partisan group in Washington who chose to actually do their jobs, called for a continuation of the cost sharing payments to insurers. This, despite trump's claim to stop funding in order to cause ACA to implode.


Notwithstanding trump's claims that 'it won't be my fault' when he destroys health insurance in this country.....the Feds currently owe millions to the insurers. The first order of business should be to make good on that promise.

 

[Bigdog]

Althea wrote: In exchange for the demands above, the Feds guaranteed insurers financial aid in the event that claims became overwhelming.

First, the Left orders citizens to buy their product.

Then the Left wants to subsidize and give these mega corporations "too big to fail" status like they did the banks.

 

[Nomad]

Prices are still out-of-control and they will get higher..... It will take a multi-faceted approach to even begin to repair...... Obamacare....

No shit, Sherlockarella. The Democrats would love for the politically motivated Republicans to sit down with them and try to come up with workable ideas to help make Obamacare work better. But the real problem here, is that as long as it has Obama's name on it, the pathetic, politically obsessed Ratfucks would rather keep the flaws in place rather than let a Democrat President get the credit for solving a major problem.

You are the embodiment of bile and hatred since you lost an election.

You are the embodiment of a sad, lonely and bitter middle aged spinstress who wants the rest of the world to be as miserable as you are.

That's the only reason anyone votes Republican.

You're all bitter, miserable, frustrated losers who want to spread your own misery throughout the rest of the world.

 

[Althea]

strange that during this time insurance companies are making record profits. its like obamacare was designed to funnel money from the government to them.

so wierd.

Not sure they're making record profits, but CEOs are making record salaries. One of the reasons that trump needed to repeal ACA, is that insurers can only write off $500k/year in CEO salary from tax filings. That really bothers them.

 

[Althea]

If it isn't repealed, it will collapse. It was designed to fail.

Incorrect....but you've never been about anything other than talking points.

 

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Rather than having the govt completely manage and fund health care, aka "single payer", the idea was to involve the free market insurance industry to manage individual policies while the govt would provide financial assistance for those who needed it.

A conservative idea that the Republicans supported before they didn't.

The govt forces you to buy car insurance too.

Are you going to tell us that car insurance companies aren't part of the free market?

The government compels you to carry liability insurance to cover other people or property

That is at the state level

But it is not a complete free market because you are not voluntarily purchasing it

Now before we proceed, I would like to establish that you wish to include auto insurance in this medical insurance debate. Do you?

 

[Getin the ring]

Not sure they're making record profits, but CEOs are making record salaries. One of the reasons that trump needed to repeal ACA, is that insurers can only write off $500k/year in CEO salary from tax filings. That really bothers them.

so let me understand the crux of your theory,
Trump wants to repeal the ACA so his CEO buddies can write off more on their income taxes? Did I hear that right?

DO you ever read things you type before you hit enter?

 

[Bigdog]

Incorrect....but you've never been about anything other than talking points.

That is a Leftwing talking point

 

[Getin the ring]

You're all bitter, miserable, frustrated losers who want to spread your own misery throughout the rest of the world.

you finally see yourself for what you are, this is a start

 

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http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/pay...ni-highest-paid-health-insurance-ceo-at-27-9m




Stripping away the nonsense from message board warriors, politicians, and many who profit from the health insurance industry....the issue is simple.


You cannot demand that insurers cover pre existing conditions, 26 year olds, a plethora of preventive procedures at no additional OOP, and have a maximum OOP/year without compensating them for these new costs.

In exchange for the demands above, the Feds guaranteed insurers financial aid in the event that claims became overwhelming. The cost sharing, and risk corridor programs were set up to do just that.

House Republicans de funded the RC program in '14, causing 13 non profit insurers to go out of business. Further, it caused numerous insurers to flee the individual markets in the exchanges.

So getting ACA stabilized is simple. Just put back the guarantees the Feds made to insurers until a viable plan is devised. Any plan must first deal with the insane profits in the pharma industry.

The current 42 member bi partisan group in Washington who chose to actually do their jobs, called for a continuation of the cost sharing payments to insurers. This, despite trump's claim to stop funding in order to cause ACA to implode.


Notwithstanding trump's claims that 'it won't be my fault' when he destroys health insurance in this country.....the Feds currently owe millions to the insurers. The first order of business should be to make good on that promise.

Look at the lefty loving corporate welfare. Sit Ubu sit

 

[Althea]

Get the federal gubmint out of it. Gubmint overreach is part of the problem right now, it all started with HMOs.

It started with offering another option to insurance customers? Or are you properly blaming businesses that opted for inferior plans in order to increase profits?

 

[Althea]

First, the Left orders citizens to buy their product.

Read up on Heritage Foundation's answer to Hillarycare.

Then the Left wants to subsidize and give these mega corporations "too big to fail" status like they did the banks.

Yea.....no.