Republicans keep getting duped...

Holy fuck, sorry to spoil your pet theory but Roosevelt was born into wealth and Carter was from a middle class family. Nixon, Reagan, Eisenhower were all born dirt poor. Hillary Clinton came from money as did Kerry, Gore and the Kennedys.

Hillary and Carter were upper middle class. Their parents weren't as rich as the Kennedys, Roosevelts, etc.
 
We can differ not only on what "acumen" means, but whether it translates into anything else aside from the specific business he runs, much less into being a good leader & President.

As I've said a few times, Trump very clearly has an idiot savant quality w/ this real estate success, and a unique ability to manipulate people and put gold plating on BS. Kudos to him for those rather dubious qualities. It still doesn't make him anything close to a great or good leader.

The conservative National Review doesn't think he's a great businessman. And I'll believe he has billions upon billions once his tax returns are public.

"He has had a middling career in real estate and a poor one as a hotelier and casino operator but convinced people he is a titan of industry. He has never managed a large, complex corporate enterprise, but he did play an executive on a reality show."

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449988/donald-trump-cant-close-deal-failing-salesman
 
plese explain to me how trump can have a private jet and like a penthouse in manhattan if he's poor/not successful? i swear you people are fucking morons. DUHHHHHH TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE MONEY, he probably only has tWO BILILION, NOT 10!!!, MAYBE HE ONLY HAS 400 MILLION DOLLARS! LOL FAILURE"
 
plese explain to me how trump can have a private jet and like a penthouse in manhattan if he's poor/not successful? i swear you people are fucking morons. DUHHHHHH TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE MONEY, he probably only has tWO BILILION, NOT 10!!!, MAYBE HE ONLY HAS 400 MILLION DOLLARS! LOL FAILURE"

Follow the money, Lebowski. Trump blew through a billion dollars in loans in the 1990s, no longer has credit in the America (having burned so many banks and investors) and largely quit the real estate industry and began selling his 'brand name' to buildings ever since. If he's really a billionaire, which I doubt, I'd like to know where that money came from -- because he has failed just about every business venture he has ever started. He felt that bilking suckers with Trump University for tens of thousands of dollars was a lucrative, worthwhile business.

Trump is literally one of the worst, most corrupt and sleezey business men on the planet.
 
Follow the money, Lebowski. Trump blew through a billion dollars in loans in the 1990s, no longer has credit in the America (having burned so many banks and investors) and largely quit the real estate industry and began selling his 'brand name' to buildings ever since. If he's really a billionaire, which I doubt, I'd like to know where that money came from -- because he has failed just about every business venture he has ever started. He felt that bilking suckers with Trump University for tens of thousands of dollars was a lucrative, worthwhile business.

Trump is literally one of the worst, most corrupt and sleezey business men on the planet.

Dude still owns a couple billion dollars worth of real estate.
 
plese explain to me how trump can have a private jet and like a penthouse in manhattan if he's poor/not successful? i swear you people are fucking morons. DUHHHHHH TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE MONEY, he probably only has tWO BILILION, NOT 10!!!, MAYBE HE ONLY HAS 400 MILLION DOLLARS! LOL FAILURE"

"If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?"

You really put far too much stock in the acquisition of wealth as some kind of measure.
 
I intentionally work less and spend more time with my family doing things I enjoy.
 
there are people literally in this thread implying he doesn't have money

He definitely exaggerates how much he has, and (as christie's article supports) it's worth questioning how successful he has really been in business. This was, after all, the cornerstone of his campaign and why many thought he'd be a good President.

He has clearly had some MAJOR failures in business, and with the casino business in particular, he was inept and basically needed to be bailed out to avoid catastrophe. And he was born on 3rd base.
 
who cares what's failed? Do you own your own helicopter? how many buildings have your name on it? it's a fucking stupid question. he's rich as fuck no matter how you slice it.
 
"If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?"

It's a poor standard. You should nominate Madoff next time. Or Madonna.

you are seemingly distracted from the topic at hand. I am addressing the yokels int his thread pretending he isn't rich as fuck (and therefore, extremely successful). You are talking about his larger intelligence, something I haven't brought up.
 
you are seemingly distracted from the topic at hand. I am addressing the yokels int his thread pretending he isn't rich as fuck (and therefore, extremely successful). You are talking about his larger intelligence, something I haven't brought up.

I haven't seen anyone say he wasn't rich at all, but I haven't read every post. I think it's worth questioning how rich he is. It certainly isn't as much as he says he is. He also DOES love debt, so it's worth questioning how his wealth compares to what he owes. It's also worth discussing what makes someone a "successful businessman."
 
I haven't seen anyone say he wasn't rich at all, but I haven't read every post. I think it's worth questioning how rich he is. It certainly isn't as much as he says he is. He also DOES love debt, so it's worth questioning how his wealth compares to what he owes. It's also worth discussing what makes someone a "successful businessman."

Apparently Conservatives believe inheriting tuns of money from their father makes them successful businessmen.
 
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