The HORRIFIC results of deregulation.

zappasguitar

zappasguitar

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Those pesky regulations!

Always interfering with a business owner's attempts to make a buck...


Thank GOD for Trump!

He's for rolling back those regulations and giving business owners a chance to make more money.
 
Really clutching at straws now. It was inspected and cleared by the state a few hours before. Not all potential defects can be caught by a visual inspections and review of maintenance logs as required by the regulations that are in place and always will be​. Not even non-destructive testing can catch many potential defects in components. Stick wit h the Russia thing that you guys love so much, it makes us laugh.
 
ZappasTARD said:
Those pesky regulations!

Always interfering with a business owner's attempts to make a buck...

Thank GOD for Trump!

He's for rolling back those regulations and giving business owners a chance to make more money.
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Dear moron; Trump has nothing to do with Ohios regulatory status of carnivals and fairs. I guess you missed this part of the story:

The director of agriculture said that all of the rides at the fair are checked several times when they are being set up.

He also said the Fireball passed its inspections

PARTISAN DUMBASS!!
 
Pappy Jones said:
Really clutching at straws now. It was inspected and cleared by the state a few hours before. Not all potential defects can be caught by a visual inspections and review of maintenance logs as required by the regulations that are in place and always will be​. Not even non-destructive testing can catch many potential defects in components. Stick wit h the Russia thing that you guys love so much, it makes us laugh.
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^Spot on.
 
cawacko said:
Ok, I'll bite. What were the deregulations that caused this?
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The companies who own these traveling "fairs" are always lobbying the legislatures of the states they do business in, to relax the regulations in order to make it easier for them to get booked.

I have a friend who works for a company that owns properties in over a dozen states. These properties are very similar to chucky cheese, with games, rides, go-kart track, etc.

His job is to mediate all cases of individuals injured on company property, but he also is frequently called to testify on the specific safety regulations in place to assure customer safety, to prove the company is doing all it can.

Every time talk turns to work, he will tell me about another instance of a ride operator trying to relax the regulations. Although a number of states have commissions dealing with ride safety, lobbyists are frequently appearing before state legislatures, lobbying to have the panel/commission/board dissolved and allow the ride operators to do their own inspections.

The above ride was inspected by someone from the Dept. of Agriculture...
 
Truth Detector said:
Dear moron; Trump has nothing to do with Ohios regulatory status of carnivals and fairs. I guess you missed this part of the story:

The director of agriculture said that all of the rides at the fair are checked several times when they are being set up.

He also said the Fireball passed its inspections

PARTISAN DUMBASS!!
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You're right!

You are a partisan dumbass who has NO IDEA what you are talking about.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
The companies who own these traveling "fairs" are always lobbying the legislatures of the states they do business in, to relax the regulations in order to make it easier for them to get booked.

I have a friend who works for a company that owns properties in over a dozen states. These properties are very similar to chucky cheese, with games, rides, go-kart track, etc.

His job is to mediate all cases of individuals injured on company property, but he also is frequently called to testify on the specific safety regulations in place to assure customer safety, to prove the company is doing all it can.

Every time talk turns to work, he will tell me about another instance of a ride operator trying to relax the regulations. Although a number of states have commissions dealing with ride safety, lobbyists are frequently appearing before state legislatures, lobbying to have the panel/commission/board dissolved and allow the ride operators to do their own inspections.

The above ride was inspected by someone from the Dept. of Agriculture...
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Ok. Is there any evidence that occurred here?
 
And is there any evidence that it was Trump's fault? Some sort of bill he signed. Was this the result of "deregulation" at all?
 
ZappasTARD said:
You're right!

You are a partisan dumbass who has NO IDEA what you are talking about.
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Irony from the hyper partisan idiot on steroids who thinks these rides weren't inspected and it is Trumps fault. I am beginning to think you are not playing the part of a moron; but actually are one.
 
Grep Ip is an excellent financial reporter who wrote a book called Foolproof: Why Safety Can Be Dangerous And How Danger Makes Us Safe

Here's the blurb on the book from Amazon:

How the very things we create to protect ourselves, like money market funds or anti-lock brakes, end up being the biggest threats to our safety and wellbeing.

We have learned a staggering amount about human nature and disaster -- yet we keep having car crashes, floods, and financial crises. Partly this is because the success we have at making life safer enables us to take bigger risks. As our cities, transport systems, and financial markets become more interconnected and complex, so does the potential for catastrophe.

How do we stay safe? Should we? What if our attempts are exposing us even more to the very risks we are avoiding? Would acceptance of danger make us more secure? Is there such a thing as foolproof?

In FOOLPROOF, Greg Ip presents a macro theory of human nature and disaster that explains how we can keep ourselves safe in our increasingly dangerous world.


https://www.amazon.com/Foolproof-Safety-Dangerous-Danger-Makes/dp/0316286044



Zappa and Buckley have made the argument before that essentially is we can regulate ourselves to total safety. This book gives examples of how and when that works to our detriment. So with no specific evidence Zappa is trying to make an overarching strawman based on this tragic event in Ohio.
 
What particular federal regulations does your friend see being lobbied against? Does he do anything about it? Is it something like, "c'mon, senator! I know the main structural beam holding the ride together is rusted half way through! But the other half is holding up fine! You gotta give me a break here!" What kind of business owner would subject himself to that kind of stupidity? And just on a human level, someone like that would be little better than a serial killer
 
And WHY is the Dept of Agriculture in charge of inspecting rides?

Their mission statement: The mission of the Ohio Department of Agriculture is to protect Ohio citizens by ensuring the safety of the state's food supply, to maintain the health of Ohio's animals and plant life, and to create economic opportunities for Ohio's farmers, food processors and agribusinesses.
 
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