Why not just let it fail?
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The Superb Owl
Today he is giving GOP senators a free lunch as he tries to hustle up a deal to save face~~~~~~lil more than 24 hours after he said let it fail..
let's see your evidence that he's trying to "to hustle up a deal to save face".
Buckly J. Ewer
Racism Whistleblower
Obamacare will not fail except in the states where it was rejected by republican legislatures...
They fucked themselves.
They fucked themselves.
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The Superb Owl
You think these are all states where it was "rejected by republican legislatures"?
A list of all failed co-ops and their cost to taxpayers compiled by the House Energy and Commerce Committee is found below:
CoOportunity Health - Iowa and Nebraska
Cost: $145,312,100
Louisiana Health Cooperative, Inc.
Cost: $65,790,660
Nevada Health Cooperative
Cost: $65,925,396
Health Republic Insurance of New York
Cost: $265,133,000
Kentucky Health Care Cooperative - Kentucky and West Virginia
Cost: $146,494,772
Community Health Alliance Mutual Insurance Company - Tennessee
Cost: $73,306,700
Colorado HealthOp
Cost: $72,335,129
Health Republic Insurance of Oregon
Cost: $60,648,505
Consumers' Choice Health Insurance Company - South Carolina
Cost: $87,578,208
Arches Mutual Insurance Company – Utah
Cost: $89,650,303
Meritus Health Partners – Arizona
Cost: $93,313,233
Consumers Mutual Insurance – Michigan
Cost: $71,534,300
InHealth Mutual – Ohio
Cost: $129,225,604
HealthyCT – Connecticut
Cost: $127,980,768
Oregon Health’s CO-OP – Oregon
Cost: $56,656,900
Land of Lincoln Health – Illinois
Cost: $160,154,812
Health Republic Insurance of New Jersey
Cost: $109,074,550
TOTAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS: $1,820,114,940
https://www.atr.org/new-jersey-obamacare-co-op-becomes-17th-collapse-1
Buckly J. Ewer
Racism Whistleblower
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The Superb Owl
Soaring premiums, failed exchanges, carriers are bailing out.
Over 1,200 counties will have only one insurance provider available on the individual market next year, and 35,000 individuals will live in counties with no options available at all. These numbers are expected to increase as insurers finalize their 2018 plans.
Liberals often accuse the GOP of intentional sabotage, but premiums were increasing and insurers were fleeing long before the GOP victories of last November.
Republican messaging to date has focused only on the collapsing marketplace; it must also emphasize that Democrats have done nothing to improve Obamacare.
The reform conversation has been framed as a decision to cut coverage and reduce benefits, but what most on the left leave out is that the biggest driver of reduced insurance coverage is cost.
A report issued by the Department of Health and Human Services showed that premiums have increased 105 percent since the implementation of the ACA.
Average monthly premiums in the 39 states using HealthCare.gov (the federal health-insurance exchange) increased from $232 in 2013 to $476 in 2017.
In 24 of those states, premiums have doubled since the implementation of the ACA.
Another report, released by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), showed that 2 million people have dropped individual-market insurance coverage since January. Of those people, 46 percent cited lack of affordability as their reason for canceling their plans.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448897/obamacare-failure-gop-must-fix
Yeah, what a success. How could I have been so blind?
evince
Truthmatters
Political views[edit]
Victor Davis Hanson, a regular contributor since 2001, sees a broad spectrum of conservative, anti-liberal and pro-western contributors:
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The magazine has been described as "the bible of American conservatism".[26]
Victor Davis Hanson, a regular contributor since 2001, sees a broad spectrum of conservative, anti-liberal and pro-western contributors:
In other words, a wide conservative spectrum—paleo-conservatives, neo-conservatives, tea-party enthusiasts, the deeply religious and the agnostic, both libertarians and social conservatives, free-marketeers and the more protectionist—characterizes National Review. The common requisite is that they present their views as a critique of prevailing liberal orthodoxy but do so analytically and with decency and respect.[25]
The magazine has been described as "the bible of American conservatism".[26]
evince
Truthmatters
Political views[edit]
Victor Davis Hanson, a regular contributor since 2001, sees a broad spectrum of conservative, anti-liberal and pro-western contributors:
In other words, a wide conservative spectrum—paleo-conservatives, neo-conservatives, tea-party enthusiasts, the deeply religious and the agnostic, both libertarians and social conservatives, free-marketeers and the more protectionist—characterizes National Review. The common requisite is that they present their views as a critique of prevailing liberal orthodoxy but do so analytically and with decency and respect.[25]
The magazine has been described as "the bible of American conservatism".[26]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Review#History
Victor Davis Hanson, a regular contributor since 2001, sees a broad spectrum of conservative, anti-liberal and pro-western contributors:
In other words, a wide conservative spectrum—paleo-conservatives, neo-conservatives, tea-party enthusiasts, the deeply religious and the agnostic, both libertarians and social conservatives, free-marketeers and the more protectionist—characterizes National Review. The common requisite is that they present their views as a critique of prevailing liberal orthodoxy but do so analytically and with decency and respect.[25]
The magazine has been described as "the bible of American conservatism".[26]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Review#History
Can we wait till the meeting is over??
I'm sure everyone is dying to see what fake news has to say about it......
Dems are such hypocrites. They fight, distract and block anyway they can to stop Trump from achieving success with healthcare agenda. Then Trump in effect says, "OK, let it fail." NOOOOOOWWWWWW the Dems are upset because we're NOT going to try and do something about it.
IOW, the Dems are actually admitting that the present healthcare plan DOES need to be overhauled because it is failing. Which by the way is by design. Obama planned to have this fail so they could force a single-payer system.
Speaking to the AFL-CIO in 2003, he laid out the long march that would be necessary:
"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program.... single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that's what I'd like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House."
Barry's got those Alinsky rules down pat.
IOW, the Dems are actually admitting that the present healthcare plan DOES need to be overhauled because it is failing. Which by the way is by design. Obama planned to have this fail so they could force a single-payer system.
Speaking to the AFL-CIO in 2003, he laid out the long march that would be necessary:
"I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program.... single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that's what I'd like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House."
Barry's got those Alinsky rules down pat.
Buckly J. Ewer
Racism Whistleblower
The AHA is not failing.
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The Superb Owl
if that is so, prove it.
Getin the ring
Verified User
Buckly, do you even know what Obamacare is? in reality?
seriously
The vast VAST majority of people actually "helped" by Obamacare are people receiving subsidies, from the Medicaid expansion.
Do I need to translate what subsidies are, or Medicaid expansion?
You have been hoodwinked by your liberal media, you obviously don't read, there is no other logical explanation why you don't understand this.
For 90% of Americans Obamacare has either caused our rates to go up, caused our deductibles to go up, or both in most cases.
In addition to that 90% of Americans are seeing more of their tax dollars go to these subsidies through the Medicaid expansion.
What part of this do you not understand.
Turn the channel, you are the most annoying human being to ever grace these pages, I can not imagine what it must be like to actually be around you.
Buckley doesn't realize that Dems seem to think it is. (as mentioned in post#191)