South Korea Proposes Peace Talks with North Korea

blackascoal said:
South Korea on Monday proposed holding bilateral military talks with the North this week aimed at reducing tensions across the border*and Red Cross talks on Aug. 1 to discuss resuming reunions of the families separated since the Korean War more than 60 years ago.

South Korea wants military talks to begin Friday*at a North Korean building in the truce village of Panmunjom, the Ministry of National Defense said in a statement picked up by South Korea's Yonhap news agency.*Vice Minister Suh Choo-suk said the talks would attempt to end*"all acts of hostility" near the Military Demarcation Line that divides the two Koreas.

The talks*would be the first dialogue between the military authorities in almost three years.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un voiced support for talks last year, saying dialogue could ease tensions in the region. A series of missile tests since that time, however, had added stress to Pyongyang's relations with*Seoul as well as other neighbors in the region and the West.

The standoff between North Korea and Seoul and its allies drew even more tense July 4*when Pyongyang tested its first intercontinental ballistic missile. The Hwasong-14's estimated maximum range of about 4,163 miles means it could hit targets in Alaska.

Pyongyang's tests have spurred urgency in development of a missile-defense system being deployed in South Korea. Last week, the U.S. military*successfully intercepted a simulated intermediate-range ballistic missile using the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense system.

The defense system, along with joint military exercises conducted between Seoul and the U.S., have drawn sharp condemnation from Kim. Moon says bilateral talks could ease tensions.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...h-korea-proposes-peace-talks-north/483705001/

I'm guessing the South Koreans have watched Trump's buffoonish behavior and decided they needed to make their own deals.
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I'm sure these talks will really go places.
 
Sanctions or piece talks alone will neither convince DPRK to denuclearize nor cause it's government to collapse. To believe otherwise is to indulge in fantasy. While it is true that "maximum" sanctions have never been applied on DPRK by the international community, there is a simple reason for this. China does not want DPRK to collapse, and China controls 90% of DPRK's foreign trade and most of its FDI. Moreover, the DPRK leadership is pleased to cinch the belts of marginal members of their society if necessary to ensure he survival of the leadership. So while ramping up sanctions is certainly better than launching a catastrophic war or engaging in appeasement, the authors' approach will just kick the can down the road for the next US President to manage in 2021.
Pressure combined with patient, hard-headed dialogue can make us safer. The 1994 Agreed Framework halted DPRK production of Plutonium for 8 years. Pressure and dialogue probably won't convince the DPRK to give up all of their nuclear weapons, produced at great cost over many years of effort. But is that the only goal that has value? Are there no intermediate objectives to be won that would move us closer to ultimate objectives of denuclearization and peace?
Much could be accomplished through the combination of pressure and dialogue. I am surprised that two such experienced hands would expect DPRK officials to negotiate in ernest, or reveal their true bottom line, in talks with Americans who were not empowered to negotiate and who don't speak for the President.
Trump and President Moon of the Republic of Korea should stiffen sanctions if the DPRK continues to violate UN Security Council resolutions requiring them to halt nuclear and ballistic missile testing. But they should also launch talks with the DPRK to see what is truly possible to make the Korean Peninsula and the world safer. Time is not our ally on this one. The capabilities of the DPRK are growing. not diminishing.
 
alec33 said:
Sanctions or piece talks alone will neither convince DPRK to denuclearize nor cause it's government to collapse. To believe otherwise is to indulge in fantasy. While it is true that "maximum" sanctions have never been applied on DPRK by the international community, there is a simple reason for this. China does not want DPRK to collapse, and China controls 90% of DPRK's foreign trade and most of its FDI. Moreover, the DPRK leadership is pleased to cinch the belts of marginal members of their society if necessary to ensure he survival of the leadership. So while ramping up sanctions is certainly better than launching a catastrophic war or engaging in appeasement, the authors' approach will just kick the can down the road for the next US President to manage in 2021.
Pressure combined with patient, hard-headed dialogue can make us safer. The 1994 Agreed Framework halted DPRK production of Plutonium for 8 years. Pressure and dialogue probably won't convince the DPRK to give up all of their nuclear weapons, produced at great cost over many years of effort. But is that the only goal that has value? Are there no intermediate objectives to be won that would move us closer to ultimate objectives of denuclearization and peace?
Much could be accomplished through the combination of pressure and dialogue. I am surprised that two such experienced hands would expect DPRK officials to negotiate in ernest, or reveal their true bottom line, in talks with Americans who were not empowered to negotiate and who don't speak for the President.
Trump and President Moon of the Republic of Korea should stiffen sanctions if the DPRK continues to violate UN Security Council resolutions requiring them to halt nuclear and ballistic missile testing. But they should also launch talks with the DPRK to see what is truly possible to make the Korean Peninsula and the world safer. Time is not our ally on this one. The capabilities of the DPRK are growing. not diminishing.
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Good stuff, but paragraphs are good as well!!
 
blackascoal said:
:rofl2:

I guess you haven't been paying close enough attention.

A. The South Koreans are angry at Trump for slipping more missiles into their country without telling them.

B. It is the SOUTH Koreans who are extending the olive branch of peace.

.. but feel free to interpret this anyway you choose.

No doubt Trump is going to want to take credit for this. :0)
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He has no shame, he will take cred w/out a doubt, as long as it is successful, if it fails he will not hesitate to place the blame on someone else, anyone else..

Like he is blaming the party he usurped for FAILING to overthrow ObamaCare...

His deathCare is a POS & everyone knows it, including him...

Maybe he can try to bullshit lil un w/ the "American Armada" line again?? :rofl2:trump army men.jpg
 
LuvTrump said:
A. Are South Koreans "angry at Trump", or are They scared of China, who reacted aggressively to the THAAD deployment?

Even the failing NYT says South Korea "Voices Support for U.S. Antimissile System".

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/world/asia/south-korea-thaad-missile-defense.html

B. Are these allegedly unilaterally angry South Koreans extending "the olive branch of peace", or simply making another in a long series of diplomatic feints which have been ongoing for decades?

Please, expand on your theme.
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Now they support it?? American tax payers fitting the bill had nothing to do w/ it....

Hopefully something comes of it but it is more doing the same & expecting different results...
 
anatta said:
Russia is making great inroads to commercial ties in Afghanistan. If we ever get tired enough of bleeding there
and pull out -Russia will be the superpower/economic partner -China to a lessor extent
..India and the sub-continent are of course different.
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Ironic..... We get involved in the graveyard of Empires to get the Russians kicked out, we end up getting dragged into our longest war ever only eventually leave it in the hands of the Russians:palm:

He gets the last laugh->
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anatta said:
partnering w/Russia has already paid off in Syria (despite the "assad must go" crowd)

..as ALWAYS the correct alignments where powers clash can be found in realpolitik
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Russian intervention was good.. Was American intervention good to??
 
Darth Omar said:
Well, he wasn't directly involved lol.

However, Trump is enough of a wild card that China and the other principals in the region are doing things they might not otherwise. Say you're China, and Trump says he's going to 'do something' with NK if you don't.

They know who Mattis is by now and they know Trump keeps him on a long leash, so you're probably not going to just ignore Trump like you might his predecessors.

If you're SK, you don't want Trump/Mattis dropping Daisy Cutters on Bowl Cut across the DMZ, so you're thinking maybe it would be a good idea to try and get some talks going with NK.

Now, it may all come naught, but Trump was a factor in the equation.
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You think the "the boy" is going to be afraid of these old men??? Thus far he hasn't wavered one bit..

The trump Armada bull shit got more tests & now "the boy" extended his reach~wtf??
 
Bill said:
Ironic..... We get involved in the graveyard of Empires to get the Russians kicked out, we end up getting dragged into our longest war ever only eventually leave it in the hands of the Russians:palm:

He gets the last laugh->
1980-leonid-breschnew-and-the-olympic-bear-the-mascot-will-it-keep-f49enh.jpg
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it's crazy..how many years later and the Taliban are still going to own the government
 
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