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Truthmatters
people always die
some get proper care while they pass
some get proper care and their lives are prolonged
sociopath
Why not just let it fail?
- Thread starter Jarod
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people always die
some get proper care while they pass
some get proper care and their lives are prolonged
sociopath
While some only suffered brain death. Would you like me to pull your plug?
Pick me!! Pick me!!!
the towers are not collapsing.... we just need to build more things to hold it up? : D
Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
"The fixes are well known"?
Then say it!! What IS the "fix" for obamacare? I'll give you a little slack on this one, because the fixes actually ARE well known, and the proof of that was made clear last November. But I want to hear it from an obamabot like you.
SO SAY IT!!!
death panels like in charlie gard? : )
why are you so retarded? it was passed in 2010, wasn't even declared constitutional until 2012, and wasn't implemented until 2014, and even then it wasn't fully implemented with full penalties. It's been in place for literally like 2.5 years. not 8.
maybe they don't want their constituents to have to pay for the takers. it's an injustice.
that's because they were trying were trying to do repeal and replace. now they are just going to do replace which WILL be much easier and very likely to pass. it already passed once before, so there is no explicit reason it wont pass again
They passed a repeal, and that's when they knew Obama would veto it, pretty safe vote. This time will be very different, Murkowski, Collins and another have already stated they won't vote repeal.
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The Superb Owl
Then they have to go, or the nuclear option has to be used.
im behind on political news I just woke up. fucking jet lag bullshit.
fucking disguisting republicans. OBVIOUSLY the women with their feelings are fucking us over. this is why women shouldn't be in politics.
I hate it, news also changes so quickly.
Now it looks like they are back to trying to tweak ACA, bipartisan, can Trump bring them together?
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The Superb Owl
This is what DemocRats like Jarod say is working fine:
over 1,200 counties will have only one insurance provider available on the individual market next year, and 35,000 individuals will live in counties with no options available at all. These numbers are expected to increase as insurers finalize their 2018 plans.
Liberals often accuse the GOP of intentional sabotage, but premiums were increasing and insurers were fleeing long before the GOP victories of last November.
Republican messaging to date has focused only on the collapsing marketplace; it must also emphasize that Democrats have done nothing to improve Obamacare.
The reform conversation has been framed as a decision to cut coverage and reduce benefits, but what most on the left leave out is that the biggest driver of reduced insurance coverage is cost.
A report issued by the Department of Health and Human Services showed that premiums have increased 105 percent since the implementation of the ACA.
Average monthly premiums in the 39 states using HealthCare.gov (the federal health-insurance exchange) increased from $232 in 2013 to $476 in 2017.
In 24 of those states, premiums have doubled since the implementation of the ACA.
Another report, released by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), showed that 2 million people have dropped individual-market insurance coverage since January. Of those people, 46 percent cited lack of affordability as their reason for canceling their plans.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448897/obamacare-failure-gop-must-fix
over 1,200 counties will have only one insurance provider available on the individual market next year, and 35,000 individuals will live in counties with no options available at all. These numbers are expected to increase as insurers finalize their 2018 plans.
Liberals often accuse the GOP of intentional sabotage, but premiums were increasing and insurers were fleeing long before the GOP victories of last November.
Republican messaging to date has focused only on the collapsing marketplace; it must also emphasize that Democrats have done nothing to improve Obamacare.
The reform conversation has been framed as a decision to cut coverage and reduce benefits, but what most on the left leave out is that the biggest driver of reduced insurance coverage is cost.
A report issued by the Department of Health and Human Services showed that premiums have increased 105 percent since the implementation of the ACA.
Average monthly premiums in the 39 states using HealthCare.gov (the federal health-insurance exchange) increased from $232 in 2013 to $476 in 2017.
In 24 of those states, premiums have doubled since the implementation of the ACA.
Another report, released by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), showed that 2 million people have dropped individual-market insurance coverage since January. Of those people, 46 percent cited lack of affordability as their reason for canceling their plans.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448897/obamacare-failure-gop-must-fix
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The Superb Owl
People getting a free ride don't want it to end, but who's going to pick up the slack when the state exchanges collapse?
When insurers flee the plan’s exchanges, it is beyond fixable.
Obamacare is a public policy flop of epic proportions. That’s the only possible conclusion from the BCBS announcement that it will drop out of many markets.
The firm lost $100 million under the Obamacare insurance exchanges from 2014-16. This is another body blow to the government-insurance system Obama created in 2010. Blue Cross is one of the biggest health insurers in the nation and now 25 more counties will have no insurer left.
Nearly every news outlet buried this alarming story and instead shouted in headlines across the country: “23 Million More Uninsured Under GOP Plan.” This was based on the Congressional Budget Office estimated of the impact of the House repeal and replace plan.
Those are troubling numbers for sure, but misleading given the Blue Cross news.
If we stay with Obamacare, tens of millions will have no insurance at all that is even remotely affordable. Aetna, Humana, and other major insurers have fled Obamacare.
The Titanic has hit the iceberg and it is rapidly sinking, yet the left and the media keep fiddling on the deck. They act as though this can be fixed with “minor reforms,” but there aren’t enough bandages in America to stitch this back together.
Even more absurd is the idea that President Donald Trump and the Republicans are the ones responsible for insurers leaving and skyrocketing premiums.
If you want a bellyaching laugh, here is a lead story from The New York Times: Insurers complain that “the Trump administration and Congress are rattling the markets.
The administration’s refusal to guarantee payment of subsidies to health insurance companies, the murky outlook for the Affordable Care Act in Congress and doubts about enforcement of the mandate for most people to have insurance are driving up insurance prices for 2018, insurers say in rate requests filed with state officials.”
Stop the presses: What a shock that the insurers say they want more handouts from the government. Trump is supposedly the villain because he won’t force families to buy insurance that they can’t possibly afford given the massive premium hikes that Obama promised would never happen. This is rich.
BCBS Kansas is leaving the market because they lost tens of millions of dollars two and three years ago — long before anyone even imagined Trump running for president. The death spiral in the insurance market predates the arrival of Donald Trump by months and years.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/28/obamacare-failure-not-caused-by-trump/
When insurers flee the plan’s exchanges, it is beyond fixable.
Obamacare is a public policy flop of epic proportions. That’s the only possible conclusion from the BCBS announcement that it will drop out of many markets.
The firm lost $100 million under the Obamacare insurance exchanges from 2014-16. This is another body blow to the government-insurance system Obama created in 2010. Blue Cross is one of the biggest health insurers in the nation and now 25 more counties will have no insurer left.
Nearly every news outlet buried this alarming story and instead shouted in headlines across the country: “23 Million More Uninsured Under GOP Plan.” This was based on the Congressional Budget Office estimated of the impact of the House repeal and replace plan.
Those are troubling numbers for sure, but misleading given the Blue Cross news.
If we stay with Obamacare, tens of millions will have no insurance at all that is even remotely affordable. Aetna, Humana, and other major insurers have fled Obamacare.
The Titanic has hit the iceberg and it is rapidly sinking, yet the left and the media keep fiddling on the deck. They act as though this can be fixed with “minor reforms,” but there aren’t enough bandages in America to stitch this back together.
Even more absurd is the idea that President Donald Trump and the Republicans are the ones responsible for insurers leaving and skyrocketing premiums.
If you want a bellyaching laugh, here is a lead story from The New York Times: Insurers complain that “the Trump administration and Congress are rattling the markets.
The administration’s refusal to guarantee payment of subsidies to health insurance companies, the murky outlook for the Affordable Care Act in Congress and doubts about enforcement of the mandate for most people to have insurance are driving up insurance prices for 2018, insurers say in rate requests filed with state officials.”
Stop the presses: What a shock that the insurers say they want more handouts from the government. Trump is supposedly the villain because he won’t force families to buy insurance that they can’t possibly afford given the massive premium hikes that Obama promised would never happen. This is rich.
BCBS Kansas is leaving the market because they lost tens of millions of dollars two and three years ago — long before anyone even imagined Trump running for president. The death spiral in the insurance market predates the arrival of Donald Trump by months and years.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/28/obamacare-failure-not-caused-by-trump/
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The Superb Owl
Obamafail
A list of failed co-ops and their cost to taxpayers compiled by the House Energy and Commerce Committee:
CoOportunity Health - Iowa and Nebraska
Cost: $145,312,100
Louisiana Health Cooperative, Inc.
Cost: $65,790,660
Nevada Health Cooperative
Cost: $65,925,396
Health Republic Insurance of New York
Cost: $265,133,000
Kentucky Health Care Cooperative - Kentucky and West Virginia
Cost: $146,494,772
Community Health Alliance Mutual Insurance Company - Tennessee
Cost: $73,306,700
Colorado HealthOp
Cost: $72,335,129
Health Republic Insurance of Oregon
Cost: $60,648,505
Consumers' Choice Health Insurance Company - South Carolina
Cost: $87,578,208
Arches Mutual Insurance Company – Utah
Cost: $89,650,303
Meritus Health Partners – Arizona
Cost: $93,313,233
Consumers Mutual Insurance – Michigan
Cost: $71,534,300
InHealth Mutual – Ohio
Cost: $129,225,604
HealthyCT – Connecticut
Cost: $127,980,768
Oregon Health’s CO-OP – Oregon
Cost: $56,656,900
Land of Lincoln Health – Illinois
Cost: $160,154,812
Health Republic Insurance of New Jersey
Cost: $109,074,550
TOTAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS: $1,820,114,940
https://www.atr.org/new-jersey-obamacare-co-op-becomes-17th-collapse-1
A list of failed co-ops and their cost to taxpayers compiled by the House Energy and Commerce Committee:
CoOportunity Health - Iowa and Nebraska
Cost: $145,312,100
Louisiana Health Cooperative, Inc.
Cost: $65,790,660
Nevada Health Cooperative
Cost: $65,925,396
Health Republic Insurance of New York
Cost: $265,133,000
Kentucky Health Care Cooperative - Kentucky and West Virginia
Cost: $146,494,772
Community Health Alliance Mutual Insurance Company - Tennessee
Cost: $73,306,700
Colorado HealthOp
Cost: $72,335,129
Health Republic Insurance of Oregon
Cost: $60,648,505
Consumers' Choice Health Insurance Company - South Carolina
Cost: $87,578,208
Arches Mutual Insurance Company – Utah
Cost: $89,650,303
Meritus Health Partners – Arizona
Cost: $93,313,233
Consumers Mutual Insurance – Michigan
Cost: $71,534,300
InHealth Mutual – Ohio
Cost: $129,225,604
HealthyCT – Connecticut
Cost: $127,980,768
Oregon Health’s CO-OP – Oregon
Cost: $56,656,900
Land of Lincoln Health – Illinois
Cost: $160,154,812
Health Republic Insurance of New Jersey
Cost: $109,074,550
TOTAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS: $1,820,114,940
https://www.atr.org/new-jersey-obamacare-co-op-becomes-17th-collapse-1
No, Trump can't. He's too lazy and incompetent.
Newsflash. We buy other people's healthcare without Obamacare too. Do you actually understand how insurance works?
If they weren't drowning in the first place they wouldn't need to be saved.