Why not just let it fail?

Jarod

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Why not just let it fail?

They keep talking about just letting Obama care fail, but they're desperate to repeal it right away? Why not just let it fail? Because they are scared to death it won't fail. Obamacare has been the law of the land for almost 8 years, the predictions of doom and gloom never happened. Now they keep saying it's failing, The sky is falling.

Now I agree it needs some work, but it ain't failing and that's what they're afraid of.
 
i am in favor of this as well. We will be having the cadillac tax implemented next year and thats for a static 10800 premium. Premiums have gone up so much that more people will be subject to that.
 
i am in favor of this as well. We will be having the cadillac tax implemented next year and thats for a static 10800 premium. Premiums have gone up so much that more people will be subject to that.

Rump is so inept he can't Shepherd an Obamacare repeal with the Republican Congress. The man is pitiful.
 
It will implode. Let the blame for this Obamanation of a "health care" plan fall where it belongs, and then move forward after the GOP is purged of RINOs.
 
Obama care needs to be redone, fixed, changed around the edges, even Obama says that, but the Republican Party who is now in charge can't do it.
 
It will implode. Let the blame for this Obamanation of a "health care" plan fall where it belongs, and then move forward after the GOP is purged of RINOs.

If the healthcare system fails, it's not failing as of now, I will blame the Republican Congress who can't seem to do their job and fix it. Not repeal it, fix it.
 
It will implode. Let the blame for this Obamanation of a "health care" plan fall where it belongs, and then move forward after the GOP is purged of RINOs.

Remember five years ago, if we didn't repeal it unemployment was going to go through the roof? The economy was going to dip into A double recession. Didn't happen.
 
Obama care needs to be redone, fixed, changed around the edges, even Obama says that, but the Republican Party who is now in charge can't do it.

Only eight years and already it needs fixin?

Fuck it

Allow insurance companies to sell any type plan people want to buy across state lines

End individual mandate.

Hit the Obamacare taxes

Problem solved
 
And it's liked. That's the problem. The Republican voters who get it like it. Republican jerks know this. They can only sabotage at this point, the program is already beloved.

You are fucked, Repukes. Evil loses again.
 
Eight years of promises, the Republican party central campaign platform for the last eight years, if you just give us a majority we will repeal Obamacare. Well they got their majority, they got their president, they can't do it. They can't govern. Trump promised the most beautiful health care plan you've ever seen, he said it would be so easy. He can't do anything, the man is weak, ineffective, feckless.
 
If the healthcare system fails, it's not failing as of now

Yes it is.

The exchanges are getting worse. There is no way to fix Obamacare without fixing the pool so that younger, healthier people buy insurance.

Democrats had six years to come up with a way to do that (or perhaps I should say, a way to do that that could actually get through Congress without hordes of angry voters burning their representatives in effigy).

The life expectancy of the individual market for health insurance is not looking good.






https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...-sign-that-obamacare-exchanges-are-collapsing



I will blame the Republican Congress who can't seem to do their job and fix it. Not repeal it, fix it.

I suspect you will actually blame Trump, no matter what. Amirite?
 
Rump is so inept he can't Shepherd an Obamacare repeal with the Republican Congress. The man is pitiful.

Trump isn't the problem, the GOP legislature is. For 7 years we've been hearing from them promises to repeal, and so we voted for them. Now they have the chance and won't do it.
 
And it's liked. That's the problem. The Republican voters who get it like it. Republican jerks know this. They can only sabotage at this point, the program is already beloved.

You are fucked, Repukes. Evil loses again.

Of course people getting a free ride don't want it to end, but who's going to pick up the slack when the state exchanges collapse?

When insurers flee the plan’s exchanges, liberals must acknowledge that it is beyond fixable.

Obamacare is a public policy flop of epic proportions. That’s the only possible conclusion from the BCBS of Kansas City announcement that it will drop out of many markets in Kansas and Missouri.

The firm lost $100 million under the Obamacare insurance exchanges from 2014-16. This is another body blow to the government-insurance system Obama created in 2010. Blue Cross is one of the biggest health insurers in the nation and now 25 more counties in these states will have no insurer left.

Nearly every news outlet buried this alarming story and instead shouted in headlines across the country: “23 Million More Uninsured Under GOP Plan.” This was based on the Congressional Budget Office estimated of the impact of the House repeal and replace plan.

Those are troubling numbers for sure, but misleading given the Blue Cross news.

If we stay with Obamacare, tens of millions will have no insurance at all that is even remotely affordable. Aetna, Humana, and other major insurers have fled Obamacare. The Titanic has hit the iceberg and it is rapidly sinking, yet the left and the media keep fiddling on the deck. They act as though this can be fixed with “minor reforms,” but there aren’t enough bandages in America to stitch this back together.

Even more absurd is the idea that President Donald Trump and the Republicans are the ones responsible for the insurers’ leaving and skyrocketing premiums.

If you want a bellyaching laugh, here is a lead story from The New York Times: Insurers complain that “the Trump administration and Congress are rattling the markets.

The administration’s refusal to guarantee payment of subsidies to health insurance companies, the murky outlook for the Affordable Care Act in Congress and doubts about enforcement of the mandate for most people to have insurance are driving up insurance prices for 2018, insurers say in rate requests filed with state officials.”

Stop the presses: What a shock that the insurers say they want more handouts from the government. Trump is supposedly the villain because he won’t force families to buy insurance that they can’t possibly afford given the massive premium hikes that Obama promised would never happen. This is rich.

BCBS Kansas is leaving the market because they lost tens of millions of dollars two and three years ago — long before anyone even imagined Trump running for president. The death spiral in the insurance market predates the arrival of Donald Trump by months and years.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/28/obamacare-failure-not-caused-by-trump/
 
Yes it is.

The exchanges are getting worse. There is no way to fix Obamacare without fixing the pool so that younger, healthier people buy insurance.

Democrats had six years to come up with a way to do that (or perhaps I should say, a way to do that that could actually get through Congress without hordes of angry voters burning their representatives in effigy).

The life expectancy of the individual market for health insurance is not looking good.






https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...-sign-that-obamacare-exchanges-are-collapsing





I suspect you will actually blame Trump, no matter what. Amirite?

Obamacare needs some fixes and if Congress and the President don't fix it, I will blame them.

It is not imploding, many, many more people are insured today than were before Obamacare. Health care inflation has slowed dramatically. Most places in the nation have lots of choices. There are some areas, mostly in Republicans states where Governors sabotaged it, the choices have dropped, that needs to be fixed.

Healthinsurance costs more, but it is better and more people have chosen to have it than go without. That is a win!
 
Eight years of promises, the Republican party central campaign platform for the last eight years, if you just give us a majority we will repeal Obamacare. Well they got their majority, they got their president, they can't do it. They can't govern. Trump promised the most beautiful health care plan you've ever seen, he said it would be so easy. He can't do anything, the man is weak, ineffective, feckless.

I don't disagree with the first part. But Trump will not be blamed by the base. McCuntell and Ryan will

They have no balls. They will be punished by the base at the ballot box
 
Trump isn't the problem, the GOP legislature is. For 7 years we've been hearing from them promises to repeal, and so we voted for them. Now they have the chance and won't do it.

A true leader leads his party to pass legislation that is helpful for the nation. Rump has proposed so many different ideas and refused to commit to being involved, he is too busy trying to CYA, a real leader would have shepherded his campaign promise through Congress. Remember when he promised better healthcare for cheaper ON day one, then crowed that it would be SO EASY?

He promised it!
 
Of course people getting a free ride don't want it to end, but who's going to pick up the slack when the state exchanges collapse?

When insurers flee the plan’s exchanges, liberals must acknowledge that it is beyond fixable.

Obamacare is a public policy flop of epic proportions. That’s the only possible conclusion from the BCBS of Kansas City announcement that it will drop out of many markets in Kansas and Missouri.

The firm lost $100 million under the Obamacare insurance exchanges from 2014-16. This is another body blow to the government-insurance system Obama created in 2010. Blue Cross is one of the biggest health insurers in the nation and now 25 more counties in these states will have no insurer left.

Nearly every news outlet buried this alarming story and instead shouted in headlines across the country: “23 Million More Uninsured Under GOP Plan.” This was based on the Congressional Budget Office estimated of the impact of the House repeal and replace plan.

Those are troubling numbers for sure, but misleading given the Blue Cross news.

If we stay with Obamacare, tens of millions will have no insurance at all that is even remotely affordable. Aetna, Humana, and other major insurers have fled Obamacare. The Titanic has hit the iceberg and it is rapidly sinking, yet the left and the media keep fiddling on the deck. They act as though this can be fixed with “minor reforms,” but there aren’t enough bandages in America to stitch this back together.

Even more absurd is the idea that President Donald Trump and the Republicans are the ones responsible for the insurers’ leaving and skyrocketing premiums.

If you want a bellyaching laugh, here is a lead story from The New York Times: Insurers complain that “the Trump administration and Congress are rattling the markets.

The administration’s refusal to guarantee payment of subsidies to health insurance companies, the murky outlook for the Affordable Care Act in Congress and doubts about enforcement of the mandate for most people to have insurance are driving up insurance prices for 2018, insurers say in rate requests filed with state officials.”

Stop the presses: What a shock that the insurers say they want more handouts from the government. Trump is supposedly the villain because he won’t force families to buy insurance that they can’t possibly afford given the massive premium hikes that Obama promised would never happen. This is rich.

BCBS Kansas is leaving the market because they lost tens of millions of dollars two and three years ago — long before anyone even imagined Trump running for president. The death spiral in the insurance market predates the arrival of Donald Trump by months and years.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/28/obamacare-failure-not-caused-by-trump/

The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
 
Why not just let it fail?

They keep talking about just letting Obama care fail, but they're desperate to repeal it right away? Why not just let it fail? Because they are scared to death it won't fail. Obamacare has been the law of the land for almost 8 years, the predictions of doom and gloom never happened. Now they keep saying it's failing, The sky is falling.

Now I agree it needs some work, but it ain't failing and that's what they're afraid of.

Unfortunately you are correct. Obamacare sucks, but the GOP can't come up with anything better unless it is basically universal h/c, which btw, Trump basically promised voters when campaigning. The GOP doesn't have the gonads to make sure everyone has health insurance so they play this stupid game and don't even realize how stupid it makes them look.

While they don't control all Congress, they have a majority and the WH and the fools still can't muster a decent h/c bill. Therefore, unfortunately, Bummercare will be with us for decades to come, unless some genius can get something like universal h/c to work.
 
I don't disagree with the first part. But Trump will not be blamed by the base. McCuntell and Ryan will

They have no balls. They will be punished by the base at the ballot box

I hope so, then a true investigation into the Russian Election manipulation can take place and an impeachment hearing will likely take place.
 
Unfortunately you are correct. Obamacare sucks, but the GOP can't come up with anything better unless it is basically universal h/c, which btw, Trump basically promised voters when campaigning. The GOP doesn't have the gonads to make sure everyone has health insurance so they play this stupid game and don't even realize how stupid it makes them look.

While they don't control all Congress, they have a majority and the WH and the fools still can't muster a decent h/c bill. Therefore, unfortunately, Bummercare will be with us for decades to come, unless some genius can get something like universal h/c to work.

If we elect a majority Democratic Congress and president, they will fix many of the problems with Obamacare.
 
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