Free the Juice!

aloysious said:
The jury system obviously failed miserably in the OJ case as did the judge who let the trial get out of control by essentially making it a trial of the L.A. police dept. rather than about O.J. So there was no check on that. The system failed.
Sporting events have instant replay, a flock of judges (umpires). I'd say an improvement would have been a mistrial declared by a tribunal overseeing the trial, remove Ito from it, and start over in a different location.I see you have zero interest in a fair outcome.
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the system didn't fail. the judge and prosecutor failed. i have interest in the law. if there's no law, there's no justice.
 
iewitness said:
it was my observation in 1995 that when the now dead crook lawyer [johnny cochran] said "if the glove does not fit, you must acquit"; justice died. that was the time when jury trials became ineffectual because of a damned fool public.
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that is our fault. yours, mine, everyones. it's our fault because of the idiot belief most people obtained in government knowing more than we do. government is to be our servant, not our master.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
its called a jury
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You have to admit, it didn't work out in the OJ. trial.
And like I said in a post reply to cawacko there were serious changes in the law in North Carolina after John Edwards successfully raped the system suing any doctor that delivered a baby that had CP.
When the legal system produces horrendous outcomes changes have to be made.
Germany has a tribunal system and guaranteed you would never see any judgement made against a doctor only for delivering a baby that had CP and no way O.J. would have walked.
Believe me I hate gubmint as much as you do, especially the fraud waste and abuse by gubmint employees. Lawyers pick and choose juries not for their intelligence or common sense but for what they think will produce a favorable outcome.
Sometimes you just have to defer to gubmint, like police or roads and bridges.
SmarterthanYou said:
that is our fault. yours, mine, everyones. it's our fault because of the idiot belief most people obtained in government knowing more than we do. government is to be our servant, not our master.
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I'll take a professional jurist with an advanced degree in law before I'd take the avg. jurist at the O.J. trial. Guaranteed at least half were on the gubmint dole, barely literate and most looking to get a book deal from it. Or juries awarding tens of millions of $ judgments against docs for doing what they were trained to do, just being unlucky to deliver a baby with CP.
 
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A&E showing the OJ: Made in America right now. It takes you back to how popular and how loved he was. In our Internet/social media era I don't know if anyone could be as popular as OJ was back then
 
cawacko said:
A&E showing the OJ: Made in America right now. It takes you back to how popular and how loved he was. In our Internet/social media era I don't know if anyone could be as popular as OJ was back then
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Same is true of bands from the 60s. Will there ever be bands as loved as The Beatles and Rolling Stones?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the record shows he was acquitted, therefore he didn't murder their family member. or do you wish to do away with jury trials in our justice system?
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It shows the jury said it wasn't proven to their satisfaction. You must be one of those idiots that thinks only those getting a speeding ticket went over the limit or that a fisherman catches a fish every time he throws his hook into the water.

How is the job search going? What is it 9 months now? I bet you can't figure out why no one will hire you.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
CFM is just mad he keeps getting cucked by everyone, so he has to lash out to preserve some of his masculinity......what part his wife lets him keep.
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Are you mad that everyone fucks your wife? Maybe she can support the family since you can't be a man and get a job.
 
cawacko said:
The purpose was to show your proof you played college sports on scholarship. You didn't play any sports, or attend college, so of course you have no timetable because you have nothing to show.

Like I said no integrity. And Grinds post summed you up to a T.
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I have one. It's mine. Are you too stupid to understand that? You make Buckly, Nomad, domer, etc. look like geniuses.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
that is exactly how 'logic' has worked in our justice system since it's founding over 200 years ago.
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Acquitted doesn't mean it didn't happen just that it wasn't proven to the satisfaction of those giving the answer.

I thought someone that claimed to know so much about how the Constitution worked would know the difference.
 
aloysious said:
You have to admit, it didn't work out in the OJ. trial.
And like I said in a post reply to cawacko there were serious changes in the law in North Carolina after John Edwards successfully raped the system suing any doctor that delivered a baby that had CP.
When the legal system produces horrendous outcomes changes have to be made.
Germany has a tribunal system and guaranteed you would never see any judgement made against a doctor only for delivering a baby that had CP and no way O.J. would have walked.
Believe me I hate gubmint as much as you do, especially the fraud waste and abuse by gubmint employees. Lawyers pick and choose juries not for their intelligence or common sense but for what they think will produce a favorable outcome.
Sometimes you just have to defer to gubmint, like police or roads and bridges.I'll take a professional jurist with an advanced degree in law before I'd take the avg. jurist at the O.J. trial. Guaranteed at least half were on the gubmint dole, barely literate and most looking to get a book deal from it. Or juries awarding tens of millions of $ judgments against docs for doing what they were trained to do, just being unlucky to deliver a baby with CP.
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then you're a fool.
 
CFM said:
Acquitted doesn't mean it didn't happen just that it wasn't proven to the satisfaction of those giving the answer.

I thought someone that claimed to know so much about how the Constitution worked would know the difference.
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someones awful angry that they can't guarantee something about their wife anymore, aren't they?????

bet you also believe that the founders were really just ignoramus's who didn't really know what they were doing when they preached 'innocent until proven guilty' and 'better that one guilty man go free than to have ten innocent imprisoned'
 
aloysious said:
You have to admit, it didn't work out in the OJ. trial.
And like I said in a post reply to cawacko there were serious changes in the law in North Carolina after John Edwards successfully raped the system suing any doctor that delivered a baby that had CP.
When the legal system produces horrendous outcomes changes have to be made.
Germany has a tribunal system and guaranteed you would never see any judgement made against a doctor only for delivering a baby that had CP and no way O.J. would have walked.
Believe me I hate gubmint as much as you do, especially the fraud waste and abuse by gubmint employees. Lawyers pick and choose juries not for their intelligence or common sense but for what they think will produce a favorable outcome.
Sometimes you just have to defer to gubmint, like police or roads and bridges.I'll take a professional jurist with an advanced degree in law before I'd take the avg. jurist at the O.J. trial. Guaranteed at least half were on the gubmint dole, barely literate and most looking to get a book deal from it. Or juries awarding tens of millions of $ judgments against docs for doing what they were trained to do, just being unlucky to deliver a baby with CP.
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There are innocent people in prison right now. That's a travesty. How do we change the system so these people get out and it doesn't happen again? Should we get tribunals for every trial so they can over rule?

The reality is there's not going to be another OJ trial. But there are trials everyday where justice is not served.

I mean hell, going back to OJ. Look at the Rodney King verdict. Should have been a tribunal to overrule that right?
 
cawacko said:
There are innocent people in prison right now. That's a travesty. How do we change the system so these people get out and it doesn't happen again? Should we get tribunals for every trial so they can over rule?

The reality is there's not going to be another OJ trial. But there are trials everyday where justice is not served.

I mean hell, going back to OJ. Look at the Rodney King verdict. Should have been a tribunal to overrule that right?
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Good point. The federal government should have tried O.J. for violating R.G. and Nicole's civil rights.
Besides innocent people in jail are allowed new trials.
 
aloysious said:
Good point. The federal government should have tried O.J. for violating R.G. and Nicole's civil rights.
Besides innocent people in jail are allowed new trials.
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You want the federal gov't doing that? I understand you don't like the verdict but I think you are missing the forest for the trees in wanting to give the federal gov't this type of power.
 
cawacko said:
You want the federal gov't doing that? I understand you don't like the verdict but I think you are missing the forest for the trees in wanting to give the federal gov't this type of power.
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They already have it. They used it in Rodney King. Thanks for pointing that out (inadvertently).
 
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