Happy Fourth of July

they were the victims idiot


they lost their dreams

the CEOs walked away with HUGE fucking bonuses after making huge salaries for years


you always blame the victim huh
 
blackascoal said:
Much love for you brother, but that 'great' is and has been rapidly diminishing. Obama, as flawed as he was, stood as a global beacon of hope for many leaders and people across the world. But even he was beset with the demons of corporatism and power that separates what America claims to be and what America truly is. Trump is simply the unmasking of what America has always been.

Trump cannot be blamed for what America is.

We mass-murder innocent people .. babies included.

We slaughter entire populations of innocent people .. and we'll use terrorists to do it.

Under the guise of 'fighting terrorism' we feel justified to do any fucking thing we want to do to innocent people all over the world .. YET more people are killed by our own homegrown terrorists in this country than by Muslims.

Why didn't your government tell you the 'rescue' of Jessica Lynch was a fraud? Why didn't they tell you the 'toppling' of Saddam's statue was a fraud? Why didn't they tell you the Bin Laden 'confession' tapes were a fraud?

Why, because they created the frauds.

Americans are a colonized people .. easily manipulated.

By the way .. what they didn't show you in the Patriot was the slaves they were fucking over, as they raped their children .. while fighting for the 'freedom' to rape their babies.
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I will not deny that America has been and is still a negative experience for many.

But, it's about progress, and where things are headed. I don't see it as "one step forward, two steps back" so much as "two steps forward, one step back." Trump is a step back. But we're still moving forward.

I compare us to where we were 100 years ago, and 50 years ago. We're better. Still a long way to go, but we're getting there. And it's the founding principles of liberty, equality & justice that will get us there.
 
the arch of history bends towards the liberal ideas


we get better when evil doesnt stand in the way


evil will always stand in the way

its all evil knows
 
Thing1 said:
I will not deny that America has been and is still a negative experience for many.

But, it's about progress, and where things are headed. I don't see it as "one step forward, two steps back" so much as "two steps forward, one step back." Trump is a step back. But we're still moving forward.

I compare us to where we were 100 years ago, and 50 years ago. We're better. Still a long way to go, but we're getting there. And it's the founding principles of liberty, equality & justice that will get us there.
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That all depends on one's perspective my friend.

REAL American history, including current affairs, reads like a horror story.
 
blackascoal said:
That all depends on one's perspective my friend.

REAL American history, including current affairs, reads like a horror story.
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not really. Your just holding america up to an impossible standard. Any empire gets to where it is by crushing its enemies.
 
it was founded for the right reasons


the HOPE that mankind was more good than evil and rules and cooperation would keep the evil side at bay.


the evil in people rears its head

like it has everywhere on earth all throughout mankinds history


this experiment has made us better


we will likely never be perfect

that should NEVER keep us from striving for perfect


I love my country


but is not and has never been and will likely never be perfect.


that is why the line reads " a more perfect union"
 
tsuke said:
not really. Your just holding america up to an impossible standard. Any empire gets to where it is by crushing its enemies.
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Standards??? .. you mean like not mass-murdering innocent people for profit?

Innocent people are our enemies???
 
blackascoal said:
Standards??? .. you mean like not mass-murdering innocent people for profit?

Innocent people are our enemies???
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are we referring to the indians? or someone else? Yes we took their land for our growth. Same as Rome taking gaul and China expanding throughout its current borders.

i think you have this view of america that, if actually done, would have caused the US to be conquered a long time ago.
 
All over the news and social media people are talking about the post office today. The founding of our country was based on the post office
 
evince said:
happy fourth

remember the founders wrote the post office right into the constitution


the founders believed a democratic republic could employ social programs that aided the people and prevented criminal behavior
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they showed us how the USA could use certain tools to make the country function better and free of certain crimes


do you hate them for that wack
 
evince said:
On July 26, 1775, members of the Second Continental Congress, meeting in Philadelphia, agreed
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That a postmaster General be appointed for the United Colonies, who shall hold his office at Philada, and shall be allowed a salary of 1000 dollars per an: for himself, and 340 dollars per an: for a secretary and Comptroller, with power to appoint such, and so many deputies as to him may seem proper and necessary.
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That a line of posts be appointed under the direction of the Postmaster general, from Falmouth in New England to Savannah in Georgia, with as many cross posts as he shall think fit.1
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This simple statement signaled the birth of the Post Office Department, the predecessor of the United States Postal Service and the second oldest federal department or agency of the United States of America.



https://about.usps.com/publications/pub100/pub100_001.htm
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the founders knew this tool would work


they were correct
 
cawacko said:
Like slavery?
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How many of America's founding fathers were slave owners?

Of the 55 delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 49% owned slaves.

The slave owners were:

Richard Bassett (DE)
Jacob Broom (DE)
John Dickinson (DE)
George Read (DE)
William Houstoun (GA)
William Few (GA)
William Samuel Johnson (CT)
Daniel Carroll (MD)
Luther Martin (MD)
John Francis Mercer (MD)
Daniel of St. Thomas Jenifer (MD)
William Livingston (NJ)
William Blount (NC)
William Richardson Davie (NC)
Alexander Martin (NC)
Richard Dobbs Spaight (NC)
Pierce Butler (SC)
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney (SC)
Charles Pinckney (SC)
John Rutledge (SC)
John Blair (VA)
James Madison (VA)
George Mason (VA)
Edmund Randolph (VA)
George Washington (VA)
George Wythe (VA)
Robert Morris (PA)

There are borderline cases among the above.

Robert Morris did not personally own slaves but did own a slave ship and invested in plantations using slaves. I've listed him as a slave owner since he was a direct participant in slavery and the slave trade.

Some slave owners emancipated their slaves (Richard Bassett and John Dickinson). Other slave owners opposed slavery and supported abolition (Jacob Broom and William Samuel Johnson). Other slave owners opposed the slave trade if not slavery itself.

Of the 26 slaveowners, 19 owned multiple slaves and relied on slave labor for their livelihood.
 
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