US Senator colludes with Soviet Union

anatta said:
no they are not. we cooperate on terrorism
we had some (limited )cooperation on the Geneva Syrian talks.

IT'S THE RUSSIAPHOPBIA that drove NATO expansion.
It is not an innate hostility, we chose this path. And by doing so are cementing a Sino-Russian partnership
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The USSR might not have been the grave, imminent threat to our very survival that they were portrayed as during the Reagan era, but modern Russia is still our opponent and competitor on the world stage.

They are the Pepsi to our Coca Cola.

In most cases involving our economic and geo-political interests and well being, Russia's interests are at odds with ours and they actively seek to advance their position at the expense of ours.

Any cooperation on terrorism they engage in, is because they see it as advantageous to them as well.

They are not our warm, fuzzy buddies or close allies whose interests directly align with ours.

Only a complete fool or a Trump cum guzzler would think they are.
 
Nomad said:
The USSR might not have been the grave, imminent threat to our very survival that they were portrayed as during the Reagan era, but modern Russia is still our opponent and competitor on the world stage.

They are the Pepsi to our Coca Cola.

In most cases involving our economic and geo-political interests and well being, Russia's interests are at odds with ours and they actively seek to advance their position at the expense of ours.

Any cooperation on terrorism they engage in, is because they see it as advantageous to them as well.

They are not our warm, fuzzy buddies or close allies whose interests directly align with ours.

Only a complete fool or a Trump cum guzzler would think they are.
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Back around khrushchev's time the USSR was an existential threat.
I agree with you regarding Kennedy it was masterful brinkmanship play to get Russian missiles out of Cuba .
And the USSR's enslavement of Eastern Europe, and east Germany had to be countered -
it was an expansionist empires.

But AFTER the first Cold War 1. Russia contracted,and became a joke under the drunken Yeltsin.

IF we had kept to our word and not expanded NATO past Germany
(we pledged not to base NATO troops in the former East Germany. )
we could have brought Russia into an economic cooperation with the EU.
We could have led a real lasting detente' - maybe a true peace.
Instead we allowed NATO as the chief organizer of not just security,but economic cooperation with those countries

If Russia was making military alliances all across Central America-what would be our response?

I realize the former Warsaw Pact countries naturally wanted in on NATO,but we should have said no,
even if they joined the EU.
It was arrogant,and it led to Putin's push back
 
anatta said:
Back around khrushchev's time the USSR was an existential threat.
I agree with you regarding Kennedy it was masterful brinkmanship play to get Russian missiles out of Cuba .
And the USSR's enslavement of Eastern Europe, and east Germany had to be countered -
it was an expansionist empires.

But AFTER the first Cold War 1. Russia contracted,and became a joke under the drunken Yeltsin.

IF we had kept to our word and not expanded NATO past Germany
(we pledged not to base NATO troops in the former East Germany. )
we could have brought Russia into an economic cooperation with the EU.
We could have led a real lasting detente' - maybe a true peace.
Instead we allowed NATO as the chief organizer of not just security,but economic cooperation with those countries

If Russia was making military alliances all across Central America-what would be our response?

I realize the former Warsaw Pact countries naturally wanted in on NATO,but we should have said no,
even if they joined the EU.
It was arrogant,and it led to Putin's push back
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Always remember that the Cuban Missile Crisis only came about because of Kennedy's stupidity and incompetence handling the Bay of Pigs invasion.
 
Threedee said:
Always remember that the Cuban Missile Crisis only came about because of Kennedy's stupidity and incompetence handling the Bay of Pigs invasion.
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I don't know if that was a direct case and effect, but Kennedy definitely grew into an international figure
not dwarfed by Khruschev like at the Vienna Summit. (Common perception)
 
Nomad said:
The USSR and now Russia, has always been a "threat" to the US. The issue is how much of a threat. Reagan painted an exaggerated picture of them as having the potential to start a nuclear war with us without provocation.

Russia today, is seen as more of a threat to us in terms of lowering our global economic power and status over the long term, and influencing politics in other regions of the world that might be detrimental to our own interests.

What Kennedy proposed, if the allegation is true, was to invite the Soviet leader to speak directly to the public for the purpose of showing us he wasn't a mad dog intent on wiping America off the map.

And though the alleged plan obviously would have helped the Democrat candidate in the upcoming election, that in itself being an obvious motivation on Kennedy's part, it did not rise to the level of subversiveness, of Trump's own campaign coordinating the strategic release of illegally obtained private communications for the direct purpose of destroying his opponent's reputation in order to help ensure his own victory in the upcoming election.

Two completely different scenarios in terms of level of severity, direct involvement and personal political gain.
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It's hard to take you serious when you believe the USSR and Russia are the same entity. Hey retard, because it's obvious you didn't learn the difference, while Russia was part of the USSR, it wasn't the only part.
 
CFM said:
It's hard to take you serious when you believe the USSR and Russia are the same entity. Hey retard, because it's obvious you didn't learn the difference, while Russia was part of the USSR, it wasn't the only part.
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Show me where I said the USSR was one country, you illiterate fucking hillbilly.

Everyone knows that Moscow and the Kremlin (Russia) were always the control center of the Soviet Union and its satellites.

Stupid retarded fucking redneck jackass.

You're the dumbest fucking hick on this board.
 
CFM said:
It's hard to take you serious when you believe the USSR and Russia are the same entity. Hey retard, because it's obvious you didn't learn the difference, while Russia was part of the USSR, it wasn't the only part.
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Are you saying that any of the other members had influence over Soviet policy?
 
Threedee said:
Are you saying that any of the other members had influence over Soviet policy?
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Being the stupid, illiterate fucking inbred hillbilly retard that he is, I doubt he has the slightest clue one way or the other.
 
Nomad said:
Show me where I said the USSR was one country, you illiterate fucking hillbilly.

Everyone knows that Moscow and the Kremlin (Russia) were always the control center of the Soviet Union and its satellites.

Stupid retarded fucking redneck jackass.

You're the dumbest fucking hick on this board.
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Anyone that knows history knows Russia wasn't the only part of the former USSR. It's only stupid fucking niggers like you that think they are the same.
 
Threedee said:
Are you saying that any of the other members had influence over Soviet policy?
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Just that Russia wasn't the only part. Never mentioned the politics just the geographical difference. Do you understand the difference between those two things?
 
Threedee said:
Who else got a say in Soviet policy besides Russia?
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The statement wasn't about policy but geography. Policy is irrelevant to the statement I made correcting your buttfuck buddy Nomad. Pucker up. You're just another one like him.
 
CFM said:
The statement wasn't about policy but geography. Policy is irrelevant to the statement I made correcting your buttfuck buddy Nomad. Pucker up. You're just another one like him.
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Policy is relevant if I say it is. Besides, if Russia decided the USSR should do something, then it would be correct to say that "Russia decided" as it would be to say "the Soviets decided."
 
Threedee said:
Policy is relevant if I say it is. Besides, if Russia decided the USSR should do something, then it would be correct to say that "Russia decided" as it would be to say "the Soviets decided."
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was there any daylight between them? (Russia and it's USSR) no.
 
CFM said:
Anyone that knows history knows Russia wasn't the only part of the former USSR. It's only stupid fucking niggers like you that think they are the same.
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Too bad you've got the reading comprehension of a turnip, otherwise you wouldn't be attempting this silly bullshit.

Show me where I said Russia was the only country within the USSR, you dumbass, cousin-butt fucking redneck piece of garbage.
 
CFM said:
The statement wasn't about policy but geography. Policy is irrelevant to the statement I made correcting your buttfuck buddy Nomad. Pucker up. You're just another one like him.
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Show me where I said what you're claiming that I said, you lying piece of redneck garbage.
 
GazzaQueen said:
Rumors are spreading that Ivanka will be the First Female President.
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More likely the first female member of a President's family to do prison time.

But then again, since both her brothers, her husband and her father will also be doing prison time, the luster of the title will likely be somewhat diminished.
 
Nomad said:
More likely the first female member of a President's family to do prison time.

But then again, since both her brothers, her husband and her father will also be doing prison time, the luster of the title will likely be somewhat diminished.
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When hating women it's best not to drool.
 
Alice in Liberaland said:
Yes, ladies and gentleman. Chappaquidick Teddy tried to collude with the former Soviet Union to interfere in a Presidential election. It's all true. There is verifiable proof from memos of KGP agents. Where is the liberal outrage? Where is the condemnation? Where are the investigations? Why is Teddy Kennedy still lionized? Yes, he is called "The Lion of the Senate"

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2015/03/did_ted_kennedy_seek_soviets_h.html

I am going to suspend thread ban rules because I really want to see libtards try to defend this given their outright hysteria the last five months.

This is your chance libbies. No APP. No thread bans except of course the real retards of JPP.

Bring it on bitches. Show me what you got
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In Commie Progressive Liberal dumbass land, it's okay to have double standards. They hated Reagan almost as much as they hate Trump. They made many of the same idiot claims about Reagan as they are now about Trump.

In the end, Reagan presided over a great economic re-birth and was beloved by many on BOTH sides of the aisle. Liberals lack the basic intelligence and good common sense to comprehend the OBVIOUS. Therefore, they personally attack anyone that threatens their efforts to destroy AmeriKa.
 
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