Most Of America’s Terrorists Are White, And Not Muslim

blackascoal said:
When it comes to domestic terrorism in America, the numbers don’t lie: Far-right extremists are behind far more plots and attacks than Islamist extremists.

There were almost twice as many terrorist incidents by right-wing extremists as by Islamist extremists in the U.S. from 2008 to 2016, according to a new report from The Nation Institute’s Investigative Fund and The Center for Investigative Reporting’s Reveal.

Looking at both plots and attacks carried out, the group tracked*201 terrorist incidents on U.S. soil from January 2008 to the end of 2016. The database shows 115 cases by right-wing extremists ― from white supremacists to militias to “sovereign citizens” ― compared to 63 cases by Islamist extremists.*Incidents from left-wing extremists, which include ecoterrorists and animal rights militants, were comparatively rare, with 19 incidents.

While the database makes a point of distinguishing between different groups within right-wing extremism,*lead reporter David Neiwert*told HuffPost that “those are all gradations of white supremacy, variations on the same thing.” When it comes to right-wing extremism, attackers are also “mostly men” and “almost purely white,” Neiwert said.

Attacks by right-wing extremists were also more often deadly, with nearly a third of right-wing extremist incidents resulting in deaths compared with 13 percent of Islamist extremist cases resulting in deaths. However, the sheer number of people killed by Islamist extremists ― a total of 90 people killed ― was higher than the death toll at the hands of right-wing extremists ― 79 people killed.

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump has focused his rhetoric and policies almost entirely on countering Islamist extremism, and not white supremacist extremism.

“As with a lot of things related to Trump and the Islamophobic right, the reality is viewed through an upside-down looking glass,” Neiwert*said. “The reality is the most significant domestic terror threat we have is right-wing extremism.”

The Investigative Fund’s findings reflect those of previous studies of domestic terrorism. The New America Foundation, for instance, which has been tracking deadly terror incidents on U.S. soil since the Sept. 11 attacks, also finds an almost two-to-one ratio of attacks by far-right extremists to Islamist extremists, with 21 deadly attacks by far-right extremists, compared to 11 by Islamist extremists.

Despite the facts, many Americans still associate terror attacks with Islamist extremists rather than far-right extremists, Neiwart noted.

“I think the larger perception in the public ― and this includes many progressives and liberals ― is the inversion of the reality: that the greatest threat we face is Islamist radicals,” Neiwert said.“ And it’s reflected in the way the press report upon various kinds of domestic terror attacks: When it’s a white domestic terrorist, they underplay it, write it off to mental illness.”

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At the end of the day, it’s not only on the government to acknowledge the reality of the growing threat of far-right extremism, according to Neiwert, it’s on everyone from members of the media to average Americans.

“First thing we need to do is recognize that it’s there, it’s a problem, it’s a threat ― as great a threat as Islamists,” Neiwert said. “And it needs to be taken seriously.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...lamist-extremists_us_594c46e4e4b0da2c731a84df

Homegrown Terrorism and why the Threat of Right-Wing Terrorism is Rising in America
http://www.newsweek.com/homegrown-terrorism-rising-threat-right-wing-extremism-619724
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Watch Republicans line up in defense of domestic terrorists by denying they exist. So sad that the second largest political party in America has come close to being the largest by enlisting the deplorables.
 
cawacko said:
It is what it is. Many of y'all love to point to Californias economy and use it as proof that liberal policies work best but you don't like it when the warts in California are exposed.
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In case you missed it my friend .. this isn't about liberals in California.

It's about terrorists on your side of the fence.
 
cawacko said:
It is what it is. Many of y'all love to point to Californias economy and use it as proof that liberal policies work best but you don't like it when the warts in California are exposed.
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What warts. I don't mind you pointing out the warts as long as you admit how awesome the economy is. If you don't admit that, you might as well be Trump.
 
Micawber said:
Watch Republicans line up in defense of domestic terrorists by denying they exist. So sad that the second largest political party in America has come close to being the largest by enlisting the deplorables.
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Absolutely correct on both counts.

But the potential for nationwide right-wing terrorism has grown exponentially.

The FBI Has Quietly Investigated White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement
Bureau policies have been crafted to take into account the active presence of domestic extremists in U.S. police departments.

President Trump has inherited a vast domestic intelligence agency with extraordinary secret powers. A cache of documents offers a rare window into the FBI’s quiet expansion since 9/11.

White supremacists and other domestic extremists*maintain an active presence in U.S. police departments and other law enforcement agencies. A striking reference to*that*conclusion, notable for*its confidence*and the policy prescriptions that accompany*it, appears in*a*classified FBI Counterterrorism Policy Guide from April 2015, obtained by The Intercept. The guide,*which details the process by which the FBI enters individuals on a terrorism watchlist, the Known or Suspected Terrorist File, notes that “domestic terrorism investigations focused on militia extremists, white supremacist extremists, and sovereign citizen extremists often have identified active links to law enforcement officers,” and explains in some detail how bureau policies have been crafted to take this infiltration into account.

Although these right-wing extremists have posed a growing threat for years, federal investigators have been reluctant to publicly address that threat or to point out the movement’s longstanding strategy of infiltrating the law enforcement community.
No centralized recruitment process or set of national standards exists for the 18,000 law enforcement agencies in the United States, many of which have deep historical connections to racist ideologies. As a result, state and local police as well as sheriff’s departments present ample opportunities for white supremacists and other right-wing extremists looking to expand their power base.

In a heavily redacted version of an October 2006 FBI internal intelligence assessment, the agency raised the alarm over white supremacist groups’ “historical” interest in “infiltrating law enforcement communities or recruiting law enforcement personnel.” The effort, the memo noted, “can lead to investigative breaches and can jeopardize the safety of law enforcement sources or personnel.” The memo also states that law enforcement had recently become aware of the term “ghost skins,” used among white supremacists to describe “those who avoid overt displays of their beliefs to blend into society and covertly advance white supremacist causes.” In at least one case, the FBI learned of a skinhead group encouraging ghost skins to seek employment with law enforcement agencies in order to warn crews of any investigations.

That report appeared after a series of scandals involving local police and sheriff’s departments. In Los Angeles, for example, a U.S. District Court judge found in 1991 that members of a local sheriff’s department had formed a neo-Nazi gang and habitually terrorized black and Latino residents. In Chicago, Jon Burge, a police detective and rumored KKK member, was fired, and eventually prosecuted in 2008, over charges relating to the torture of at least 120 black men during his decades long career. Burge notoriously referred to an electric shock device he used during interrogations as the “nigger box.” In Cleveland, officials found that a number of police officers had scrawled “racist or Nazi graffiti” throughout their department’s locker rooms. In Texas, two police officers were fired when it was discovered they were Klansmen. One of them said he had tried to boost the organization’s membership by giving an application to a fellow officer he thought shared his “white, Christian, heterosexual values.”

Although the FBI has not publicly addressed the issue of white supremacist infiltration of law enforcement since that 2006 report, in a 2015 speech, FBI Director James Comey made an unprecedented acknowledgment of the role historically played by law enforcement in communities of color: “All of us in law enforcement must be honest enough to acknowledge that much of our history is not pretty.” Comey and the agency have been less forthcoming about that history’s continuation into the present.

In 2009, shortly after the election of Barack*Obama, a Department of Homeland Security intelligence study, written in coordination with the FBI, warned of the “resurgence” of right-wing extremism. “Right-wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African-American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda,” the report noted, singling out “disgruntled military veterans” as likely targets of recruitment. “Right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to exploit their skills and knowledge derived from military training and combat.”

The report concluded that “lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent right-wing extremist ideology are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States.” Released just ahead of nationwide Tea Party protests, the report caused an uproar among conservatives, who were particularly angered by the suggestion that veterans might be implicated, and by the broad brush with which the report seemed to paint a range of right-wing groups.

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“For some reason, we have stepped away from the threat of domestic terrorism and right-wing extremism,” Jones continued. “The only way we can reconcile this kind of behavior is if we accept the possibility that the ideology that permeates white nationalists and white supremacists is something that many in our federal and law enforcement communities understand and may be in sympathy with.”

That sympathy might just be reflected by the election of a president who was endorsed and celebrated by the KKK, and who has been reluctant*to disassociate*himself from*individuals espousing white supremacist views.

“This election, for white supremacists, was a signal that ‘We’re on the right track,’” said Simi. “I have never seen anything like it among white supremacists, where they express this feeling of triumph and jubilee. They are just elated about the idea that they feel like they have somebody in the White House who gets it.”
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/31...-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/

Their war has already begun.
 
blackascoal said:
Somehow you've still got to make this about Bay area liberals .. it isn't.
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So silly. He brings that up and bags on Cali so much you might be forgiven for thinking he is blogging from Osceola Iowa and had never been to California at all.

My experience when among California more or less upper crust liberals at their "parties" that they are in fact tolerant, and mixed races, interracial marriages, gay couples, fat white men wearing sari, gurus and all kinds of people, "religions" , etc. Some exceptions and some hypocrisy, but I'll throw out the bath water and not the baby. Hell, I know a couple of white gay males who own a vineyard and I think they are racist (Mostly for voting Trump), but they wouldn't think that they are. So there is some perception issues too.

The point is most vote Democrat, and Democrat policy choices are less racist, less rich guy, less misogynist, less anti immigrant, less anti Muslim than Republicans. Can't know for sure what is in a heart but the votes matter. And a damn sure know when I go to an "upper crust" texas party what a good ole boy is and what he thinks. I'm pretty sure he writes "Muzzies" online and votes for Trump and watches Fox all day long. .
 
Micawber said:
What warts. I don't mind you pointing out the warts as long as you admit how awesome the economy is. If you don't admit that, you might as well be Trump.
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Shits dope for those at the top. No where else better to be and that includes New York. But we also have to highest poverty rate in the country.
 
blackascoal said:
In case you missed it my friend .. this isn't about liberals in California.

It's about terrorists on your side of the fence.
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I'm too busy trying to afford living in my city and raising my daughter. I don't spend much time with those who's goal is to blow sh*t up
 
cawacko said:
I'm too busy trying to afford living in my city and raising my daughter. I don't spend much time with those who's goal is to blow sh*t up
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I never thought that you did .. but they still reside on your side of the fence.

California is an expensive place to live, no doubt.
 
every Tom , Dick, and Hispanic here in Florida is a Muslim ( if you get that bad joke).

I notice the OP starts after 9-11...worldwide terrorism is Islamic based, not white supremecist.
I'm sure that's a problem too -but not as pernicious as salafi jihad.
 
anatta said:
..worldwide terrorism is Islamic based, not white supremecist.
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Worldwide terrorism includes all kinds, from IRA to Nazi to Islamic to Christian and other. Show me a religion I'll show you terrorists. Show me a government I'll show you terrorists. Drugs and terrorists. Sec trade and terrorists. Show me big money and I'll try my best to show you their terrorists they hire.
 
Micawber said:
Worldwide terrorism includes all kinds, from IRA to Nazi to Islamic to Christian and other. Show me a religion I'll show you terrorists. Show me a government I'll show you terrorists. Show me big money and I'll try my best to show you their terrorists they hire.
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99.9% of terrorist attacks are committed by Mooslims. Fact.
 
cawacko said:
Not saracasm at all. I've lived in the Bay Area for 30 years. 10 in Oakland and 20 in SF. Went to school in LA and spent an additional 4 years there. This was all living in the cities, not one of their suburbs. I come across very few Muslims. Now at my current job we have a number of programmers from India and China so it's possible they could be Muslim but you wouldn't know it on the surface.

I don't know what the Muslim population is in SF but when you go to "upper end" events you don't come across Muslims.
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How do you know, you just said you didn't know any Muslims on the surface?
 
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