Where's the NRA on the Castile shooting and injustice?

Basically this thread boils down to this: You either think it's OK for a cop to kill someone who has not drawn a weapon, or you don't.

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Basically this thread boils down to this: You either think it's OK for a cop to kill someone who has not drawn a weapon, or you don't.

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PostmodernProphet said:
that doesn't make them right.....
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You're obviously free to believe or say whatever you want. But you are using the law to avoid making a comment on the action of the officer.

As an anology, if a woman had an abortion she would be within her rights legally. But you generally speak out against abortion even though it's legal.

I and many others, believe what this cop did was murder.
 
cawacko said:
But you are using the law to avoid making a comment on the action of the officer.
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that's because I don't have all the information on the action of the officer........the jury did, unless your argument is simply that the prosecuting attorney failed to present information to the jury.......it seems though that your argument is that the jury was wrong.......under the US legal system, juries cannot be wrong.....at least not unless a judge determines a mistrial, which I don't believe is a possibility here........
 
cawacko said:
You're obviously free to believe or say whatever you want. But you are using the law to avoid making a comment on the action of the officer.

As an anology, if a woman had an abortion she would be within her rights legally. But you generally speak out against abortion even though it's legal.

I and many others, believe what this cop did was murder.
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You don't know. You haven't heard all the facts, as did the jury.
 
GazzaQueen said:
You don't know. You haven't heard all the facts, as did the jury.
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We know the pertinent facts.
The cop lied and said that he saw a gun. it's on the video
We know the gun in question was in the victim's pocket and was never drawn
We know he reached for his wallet to get his ID as he was instructed to do by officer fraidy pants
We know the cop acted unreasonably and made conflicting statements
We know the cop was not threatened by the victim in any way

This was just another botched prosecution... By design
 
PostmodernProphet said:
that's because I don't have all the information on the action of the officer........the jury did, unless your argument is simply that the prosecuting attorney failed to present information to the jury.......it seems though that your argument is that the jury was wrong.......under the US legal system, juries cannot be wrong.....at least not unless a judge determines a mistrial, which I don't believe is a possibility here........
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As stated before, the issue is the law not the jury. You are choosing to make no judgement on the video we saw. That is your right of course but I believe you have spoken out before for 2nd amendment rights which makes this surprising. I could guess why you aren't saying anything but it would just be that.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
tried googling it.....did you perhaps mean an UNDERSERVED community instead of an UNDESERVED community?.......
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When they talk about tech companies, for example, they don't say they have a lack of minorities because Asian and Indian workers are way over represented. They say instead under serves communities I.e. black and Hispanic are not fairly represented in the workforce. Same for black and Hispanic students in universities
 
tinfoil said:
We know the pertinent facts.
The cop lied and said that he saw a gun. it's on the video
We know the gun in question was in the victim's pocket and was never drawn
We know he reached for his wallet to get his ID as he was instructed to do by officer fraidy pants
We know the cop acted unreasonably and made conflicting statements
We know the cop was not threatened by the victim in any way

This was just another botched prosecution... By design
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Latino racism against black people. He pulled him over so he could murder the poor boy. Same old story.
 
cawacko said:
As stated before, the issue is the law not the jury.
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ironically no......in the legal system we refer to issues of law and issues of fact........issues of fact are the realm of the jury and issues of law are the realm of the judge.......what we are discussing here is an issue of fact and ONLY the jury may decide that.......
 
cawacko said:
When they talk about tech companies, for example, they don't say they have a lack of minorities because Asian and Indian workers are way over represented. They say instead under serves communities I.e. black and Hispanic are not fairly represented in the workforce. Same for black and Hispanic students in universities
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so you acknowledge there is no such thing as an undeserved community.........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
ironically no......in the legal system we refer to issues of law and issues of fact........issues of fact are the realm of the jury and issues of law are the realm of the judge.......what we are discussing here is an issue of fact and ONLY the jury may decide that.......
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So judges write the law now? When did this officially start? How does it work, do we lonby our elected officials to get judges to change laws?
 
cawacko said:
So judges write the law now? When did this officially start? How does it work, do we lonby our elected officials to get judges to change laws?
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sigh.......doubling down on ignorance?.......we are discussing the judicial process......judges are the deciders of law, juries are the deciders of fact.......by the way, in most states lower court judges ARE elected officials......
 
cawacko said:
Jesus Christ dude
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are you so dense you won't even acknowledge you spelled it wrong?......I only questioned it because there is no such thing as "undeserved" community........you've even acknowledged in your reply that you were talking about underserved......stop being a dickhead......
 
Quoted a terrible show. Trevor Noah ruined that show Stewart built.

Blacks can legally carry exactly the same as whites. In fact I was in the gun store the other day, and a black guy was legally purchasing a gun.

Is there a preconceived notion that black males are more violent in the minds of most Americans? You bet! Why? look who commits the vast majority of crimes/assaults/murders/rapes - per capita.

If they want the stereotype to go away, they need to clean up the gangster culture. THat's on them.
 
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