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Solar and wind energy set to get cheaper


President Donald Trump promised to bring coal back, but that won’t be so easy, a forecast that sees solar energy costs rapidly decreasing indicates.

The forecast, released last week by Bloomberg New Energy Finance, sees solar energy costs plunging 66 percent by 2040. By that year, a dollar is expected to buy 2.3 times as much solar energy as it currently does. Meanwhile, onshore wind costs will decrease rapidly and offshore even faster. Onshore wind power costs are expected to decrease by 47 percent while offshore wind costs are expected to plunge by 71 percent by 2040.

The decrease in the cost of solar and wind power will undercut the majority of existing fossil power stations by 2030, the forecast said.

Read: US Energy Sees Record-Breaking Wind And Solar Power Output

“This year’s report suggests that the greening of the world’s electricity system is unstoppable, thanks to rapidly falling costs for solar and wind power, and a growing role for batteries, including those in electric vehicles, in balancing supply and demand,” Seb Henbest, lead author of the 2017 forecast, said in a statement.

Solar and wind are expected to dominate the future of electricity. The forecast predicts $7.4 trillion will be invested in new renewable energy plants by 2040. That number accounts for nearly three-quarters of the $10.2 trillion the world will invest in new power generating technology.

Renewable energy also is expected to get a boost from electric cars and homeowners’ solar roofs. By 2040, solar cells are expected to account for as much as 5 percent of electricity in the U.S., and even more in other countries.

In the U.K., renewable energy broke a record this month when the National Grid announced Great Britain’s nuclear, wind and solar-generated power outperformed coal and gas combined. Solar energy is already as cheap as coal in other countries, including the U.S., Germany, Australia, Spain and Italy. Solar power is expected to be cheaper than coal in China, India, Mexico, the U.K. and Brazil by 2021, the forecast predicts.

Throughout the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump promised to bring back coal mining jobs. In March, he signed an executive order to dismantle the Clean Power Plan, and this month he announced he was withdrawing the U.S. from the Paris Climate Agreement, which he claimed was unfair to Americans.

However, the forecast doesn’t paint a positive picture for coal workers.

“In the U.S., the Trump administration has voiced support for the coal sector,” the forecast said. “However, [the New Energy Outlook] 2017 indicates that the economic realities over the next two decades will not favor U.S. coal-fired power, which is forecast to see a 51 percent reduction in generation by 2040. In its place, gas-fired electricity will rise 22 percent, and renewables 169 percent.”

The forecast comes after the U.S. Energy Information Administration announced the nation broke an energy record. Government data show 10 percent of all electricity generated in the country in March came from wind and solar power.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics said the fastest-growing occupations in America are wind turbine service technician jobs. U.S. wind power added jobs over nine times faster than the overall economy while data show the coal industry jobs have been declining for decades.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/solar-and-wind-energy-set-to-get-cheaper/
 
23 year prediction from Zipperhead

ROFLMAO

Yeah and 10 years ago enviroweenies claimed we would have a Katrina a year and places would be under water. Cling to your delusions. It is all you have
 
23 year prediction from Zipperhead

ROFLMAO

Yeah and 10 years ago enviroweenies claimed we would have a Katrina a year and places would be under water. Cling to your delusions. It is all you have

It's really weird that you wouldn't WANT this story to be valid.

You definitely see alternatives as a "lefty" issue.
 
Still need to use coal for the steel to build all the envirocrap contraptions. Oil is a natural commodity produced within the earth of which there is an endless supply. So, it's either this or make all the cars, ships, planes, skyscrapers, houses, windmills, solar panels and bicycles out of wood......and then just how soon would we strip the left's precious mother earth's trees?
 
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Still need to coal for the steel to build all the envirocrap contraptions. Oil is a natural commodity produced within the earth of which there is an endless supply. So, it's either this or make all the cars, ships, planes, skyscrapers, houses, windmills, solar panels and bicycles out of wood......and then just how soon would we strip the left's precious mother earth's trees?

There actually isn't an endless supply of oil.

Why do you believe that there is?
 
It's really weird that you wouldn't WANT this story to be valid.

You definitely see alternatives as a "lefty" issue.

Nope. I see it as a waste of capital.

If You really want proof that these are a pipe dream then ask yourself why private dollars aren't flooding in.

I always love these long term predictions. They give morons like you hardons yet most won't be alive to be proved wrong
 
OK, when I can power my lawn mower with wind and solar in 2030 cheaper than petrol I'll do it. Until then I'll use petrol. Why's that bad news?
 
What's really funny is that Zippy doesn't understand why solar costs are decreasing, otherwise he wouldn't be disparaging Trump.
 
True, true - when has science EVER done something that hasn't been done before?

LOL

That isn't the argument I am making and you know it

You haven't even begun to conceptualize the amount if energy it would take to create your dream world. The number of natural resources. The environmental impact.

There is proof of liberal pipe dreams in the form of ethanol. Remember that promise?

It was supposed to get us off of foreign oil. It did no such thing. But it added untold unnecessary costs to society. Including more pollution.
 
That isn't the argument I am making and you know it

You haven't even begun to conceptualize the amount if energy it would take to create your dream world. The number of natural resources. The environmental impact.

There is proof of liberal pipe dreams in the form of ethanol. Remember that promise?

It was supposed to get us off of foreign oil. It did no such thing. But it added untold unnecessary costs to society. Including more pollution.

With any new technologies, there is likely going to be a history of failure. As I keep saying, it doesn't seem like you have paid much attention to human history.

You're literally the guy decades ago who saw an IBM computer take up 3 rooms in an office building and laughed off the idea of people ever having one on their desktop - or carrying it around in their pocket.
 
THE REAL SOURCE OF CRUDE OIL WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGH AN EXPERIMENT PERFORMED BY A COMPANY IN HOUSTON IN 2004. THEY DECIDED TO TEST A RUSSIAN THEORY DATING FROM THE 1960S THAT STATES THAT CRUDE OIL COMES FROM PLANKTON IN THE SEA. HERE IS THE THEORY:

PHYTOPLANKTON PERFORM PHOTOSYNTHESIS AND ABSORB CO2 FROM THE AIR. THE PHYTOPLANKTON ARE EATEN BY ZOOPLANKTON THAT PRODUCE TINY SHELLS. WHEN THE ZOOPLANKTON DIE, THEY FALL TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA. THEIR ORGANIC MATTER ROTS, BUT THEIR SHELLS LEAVE BEHIND CALCIUM CARBONATE, CaCO3, A DURABLE CARBON CONTAINING COMPOUND. OVER MILLIONS OF YEARS THE CALCIUM CARBONATE BECOMES BONDED TOGETHER INTO SOLID MARBLE OR LIMESTONE.

SOMETIMES THAT MARBLE IS THRUST UP OUT OF THE SEA AS IT IS IN PLACES LIKE VERMONT. IN OTHER AREAS, IT CAN BE THRUST DOWN INTO THE EARTH (SUBDUCTED). WHEN IT REACHES A DEPTH OF ABOUT 60 MILES, THE EXTREME PRESSURE AND HEAT CAUSES CALCIUM CARBONATE TO REACT WITH WATER AND IRON OXIDE TO PRODUCE NATURAL GAS (METHANE, CH4). WHEN IT REACHES A DEPTH OF ABOUT 100 MILES, CRUDE OIL IS PRODUCED.

NOTE THAT WHEN WE BURN CRUDE OIL, CO2 IS RELEASED TO FEED THE PLANKTON, TO PRODUCE MORE CALCIUM CARBONATE, TO PRODUCE MORE OIL... THUS CRUDE OIL IS A RENEWABLE RESOURCE.

SO HOW DOES THE RUSSIAN THEORY STAND UP? THE HOUSTON EXPERIMENT FOUND THAT CRUDE OIL WAS PRODUCED IN EXACTLY THE COMPOSITION AND PROPORTIONS WE FIND IN THE GROUND TODAY. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FROM A CHEMISTRY STANDPOINT. IT ALSO AGREES WITH EVERYTHING WE SEE IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF CRUDE OIL AND WHERE WE FIND IT IN THE EARTH.

THE CRUDE OIL WE FIND IS PERCOLATING UP FROM FAR BELOW WHERE WE DISCOVER IT TRAPPED IN THE EARTH. THE CRUDE WE SEE IS LIKE THE COFFEE IN THE SMALL GLASS BUBBLE ON THE TOP OF A PERCOLATOR - MOST OF IT IS DOWN BELOW.

THERE'S A VERY INTERESTING OIL WELL ON AN ISLAND OFF THE COAST OF LOUISIANA. A FEW YEARS AGO IT APPEARED TO BE REACHING THE END OF ITS PRODUCTIVE LIFE, ITS PRODUCTION WAS DECLINING.

SUDDENLY ITS OIL PRODUCTION WENT UP AND THE OIL CHANGED FROM A MEDIUM CRUDE TO A LIGHT CRUDE! THIS MEANS A YOUNGER SOURCE OF OIL WAS COMING UP FROM BELOW.

IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT IN THE 70S SAUDI ARABIAN CRUDE WAS PREDICTED TO HAVE RUN OUT BY NOW, YET THEIR RESERVES HAVE RISEN. IN ALL PROBABILITY, YOUNGER CRUDE IS COMING UP FROM BELOW.

WE NEED CHEAP ENERGY AND OIL IS NEARLY PERFECT FOR TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES. IT PACKS A LOT OF ENERGY PER GALLON, IS EASILY PUMPED, AND PRODUCES A NICE CO2 FEEDSTOCK FOR PLANKTON.SO WHY IS IT VERY FEW PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE HOUSTON EXPERIMENT? IT HAS THE DISTINCT RING OF TRUTH, AND IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENT PERFORMED SO FAR THIS CENTURY. IT MAY BE THAT JOURNALISTS JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE, OR THEY MAY STILL BELIEVE THAT CRUDE OIL COMES FROM DINOSAURS.

THE LONG TERM CHALLENGE IS TO FIND THE CHEAPEST WAY TO PRODUCE OIL AND NOT GET UNDERCUT BY THE SAUDIS. IT MEANS IMPROVED TECHNOLOGY TO GET TO THE DEEPER OIL THAT WE NEED.

Thomas Gold, a professor of astronomy who taught at Cornell University in the 90's.

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The widespread use of the term “fossil fuels” is a deception created by anti-energy propagandists and earlier theorists to make people believe that oil is the result of countless dead dinosaurs and decaying vegetation. Oil, however, is “abiotic”, a term that means it is a natural product of the earth itself manufactured at deep levels where there never were any plants or animals.

Carbon is the fourth more abundant element in the universe, right after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Thomas Gold pointed out that carbon is found mostly in compounds with hydrogen—hydrocarbons—which, at different temperatures and pressures, may be gaseous, liquid, or solid.

Eliminating the fear that the world is running out of oil eliminates an urgency to experiment with or to implement alternative fuels including biofuels, wind energy, and solar energy as long as these energies remain less energy-efficient, less reliable, and more costly than using oil and natural gas.

The Earth is not running out of oil and likely never will.

Dr. Jerome R. Corsi’s , The Great Oil Conspiracy
 
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With any new technologies, there is likely going to be a history of failure. As I keep saying, it doesn't seem like you have paid much attention to human history.

You're literally the guy decades ago who saw an IBM computer take up 3 rooms in an office building and laughed off the idea of people ever having one on their desktop - or carrying it around in their pocket.

No because they didn't have to overcome basic laws of physics to do so
 
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