Qatar’s Blockade

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Dubai: An eerie sight that marked the capture of Bab Al Aziziya in 2011, the hitherto unassailable headquarters of Libyan former leader Muammar Gaddafi in the capital Tripoli was when rebels raised the flag of Qatar in a rundown balcony.

Doha is more than 4,600 kilometres away from Tripoli and seemingly nothing links the two capitals.

Yet, the sight of the serrated maroon and white flag being flown over Gaddafi’s presidential complex was a clear indication of the involvement of Qatar in the dramatic events unfolding in Libya.

The political establishment in Qatar was reportedly deeply enthusiastic for the uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya in 2011.

In Libya, Qatar played the same proactive role it had in other countries and reports said that it secured the non-objection of the Arab League to the military intervention in Libya that was crucial in toppling Gaddafi’s regime.

The rebels received financial and military support that enabled them to sustain their action against the regime.

“Following the September 11 terror attacks, the US came up with their new vision of the Middle East, basically claiming that the Arab communities are barbaric societies that have not entered modernity, that their dictators were not fully in compliance with the international order and that it was better to drop them and replace them with new rulers who are able to control their communities,” Mohammad Abdul Mattalib Al Hooni, a Libyan analyst, said.

“The West decided that the best political component would be the Muslim Brotherhood since they were the only organised political force in the region and used a religious discourse that could be understood by the masses.”

According to Al Hooni, Qatar grasped this strategy for the West and embraced the Muslim Brotherhood to act as a great power in the region.

“Qatar wanted to be the link between the Western forces and the Islamist groups that would be entrusted with managing the region,” Al Hooni said in a column published by Al Arab daily on Monday.

“In Libya, and with the start of the uprising, Qatar convinced the West that its vision of Creative Chaos was about to become a reality. Qatar insisted that the Islamist forces were ready to take over the political power, rein in the society and limit terror operations. The West believed Qatar, and the civil war broke out. Chaos still dominates Libya, six years on.”

Al Hooni said that Qatar resorted to a known terrorist, Abdul Hakeem Belhaj, and named him representative of Libya at the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (Nato) meeting amid the world’s leading generals.

“Following the failure of the Libyan-Western project in Tunisia and Egypt, Qatar became more determined to dominate Libya to use its geographic location to sow problems in Egypt and pave the way for the return of the Muslim Brotherhood at the helm of the state. It also worked on helping Al Nahdha return to power in Tunisia.”
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/qatar/raising-of-qatar-s-flag-in-libya-was-an-eerie-moment-1.2042345
 
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Qatar, the UAE and the Libya connection
the UAE perceives the possibility of a stable, peaceful and prosperous Libya as a threat to its status in the region.
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The recent outbreak of diplomatic and political turmoil between key Gulf countries - namely Qatar on one side and Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Bahrain supported by Egypt on the other - is probably the most serious since the formation of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) in 1981. One of the key accusations that has been levelled against Qatar by the other three fellow GCC countries is its alleged support for terrorism and its support for Islamist groups in the region, including in Libya

The UAE, Saudi Arabia and their allies have issued a terrorist sanctions list containing 12 organisations and 59 individuals, whom they claim to have been supported and financed by Qatar. One organisation and five individuals from this list are from Libya, including militia commanders and the Benghazi Defence Brigade, which is battling forces commanded by General Khalifa Haftar, who has the backing of Egypt and the UAE.

The accusations issued against Qatar imply that it has been contributing, through supporting such groups and individuals, to the conflict and instability in Libya. This totally distorts the reality as it attempts to turn a blind eye to the fact that the UAE has been detrimentally interfering in Libya by being deeply involved in fuelling the ongoing divisions and conflict throughout the country, especially in the last three years since the breakout of civil war. The UAE has been attempting to embolden one side of the conflict, namely Khalifa Haftar and his followers, in order to allow him to achieve a total military victory and takeover as an absolute ruler of Libya thus emulating the Sisi model in Egypt.

immediately after the breakout of the Libyan revolution in February 2011, both Qatar and the UAE have provided political and humanitarian support for the Libyan people. Qatari and UAE planes were lifting humanitarian aid to the east of Libya, mainly to Benghazi airport, as the region was already free from Gaddafi regime control since the early days of the revolution. Once the Libyan revolution was successful in bringing down the Gaddafi regime in August 2011, the nature of both the Qatari and UAE involvement in Libya has evolved and diverged markedly with the UAE taking a much more active role militarily.

Qatar continued to offer mainly political and possibly financial support to mainstream Islamists and even to some of their ideological opponents. There has been no confirmation or proof that Qatar has financed or given any logistical support to the UN classified "terrorist" groups operating in Libya such as al-Qaeda, Ansar Sharia and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS). Nor have they been proven to offer support for the group not classified by the UN as a terrorist group, known as the Benghazi Defence Brigades (BDB), which was named in the recent accusation list against Qatar.

Qatar has also maintained a consistent support for the UN-backed political dialogue which resulted in the signing of the Libyan Political Agreement (LPA) in Morocco in December 2015 and the Government of National Accord (GNA) resulting from it.

n order to stem this perceived potential threat from Libya, the UAE went as far as waging air bombings in August 2014 of targets around Tripoli while "Libya Dawn" forces were fighting other militias aligned with Haftar. The UAE's direct military involvement in the Libyan conflict (engaging in military air raids and effectively militarily aiding one side against the other) is a stark contrast to the Qatari involvement, which has been offering mainly political support and financial backing, at best.

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The UAE has been the main supporter of the military campaign waged by Khalifa Haftar in Libya since May 2014 known as the "Dignity" operation, with the help of Egypt and Jordan among others in providing this support. The UAE's support of Haftar has not only been military but a comprehensive multi-dimensional support involving intelligence, media support and political and financial backing. Tens of millions of Emirati dirhams are spent every year on Libyan-operated media outlets, including satellite television stations beaming from Jordan and Egypt in addition to other news, internet and social media outlets. The role of the UAE-sponsored media has been very divisive in Libya by fermenting hatred and antagonism and prolonging violence and bloodshed.

he UN panel report confirmed a delivery of 93 armoured personnel carriers and 549 armoured and non-armoured vehicles to Haftar's LNA through the port of the eastern city of Tobruk in April 2016. The personnel carriers included Panther T6 and Tygra models, both made by companies based in the UAE.

onsidering all this heavy military involvement by the Emiratis in Libya, one question has not received much attention and research: why? Why is it that the UAE is determined to manipulate events and prevent Libyans from realising national reconciliation, accord and stability? Possible underlying motives seem to be political and economic, in that the UAE sees a stable, democratic Libya as the only potential competitor in the region to its own model as an international business hub. Firstly: a genuine democratic rule model in Libya could become a source of inspiration and an aspiration for the people of the UAE. Secondly: Libya certainly has many competitive advantages over the UAE, such as its strategic location being so close to Europe, its vast natural resources holding the highest oil reserves in Africa and its moderate Mediterranean climate.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/06/qatar-uae-libya-connection-170612080219306.html

more at link
 
I am going to put these into the "Libyan News and Interests" thread in "Off topics."

But i wanted the board to see this. Qatar is well known for funding terrorism.
The other article is written from a pro-Qatari p.o.v. -and excoriates that UAE for it's support of General Hiftar
(eastern government -home of the so called "Libyan National Army)

In Libya's case Qatar funds and aids the UN imposed government in Tripoli (GNA):

Qatar has also maintained a consistent support for the UN-backed political dialogue which resulted in the signing of the Libyan Political Agreement (LPA) in Morocco in December 2015 and the Government of National Accord (GNA) resulting from it.

so you have another reason/playground for the schism between Egypt/SA coalition including the UAE;
and the Qatar faction -which has been blockaded by Egypt/SA coalition

Those are the 2 Sunni players. You can see how they face of in Libya by these articles.
 
iran is now sending food aid to qatar : )

remember my analysis? 100% correct.
I remember. I haven't been able to factor in Iran as part of the Qatar "group" -
other then it might just be interested in keeping the Sunni players at odds with each other?
 
I remember. I haven't been able to factor in Iran as part of the Qatar "group" -
other then it might just be interested in keeping the Sunni players at odds with each other?

Whut. Of course it is. Thats precisely why this is happening. Iran shares the largest natural gas field in the world with Qatar. If Qatar stops cooperating then they cant get the energy and their energy is screwed.

SA is trying to keep all the sunni nations in line. this is why your seeing the food aid.
 
Whut. Of course it is. Thats precisely why this is happening. Iran shares the largest natural gas field in the world with Qatar. If Qatar stops cooperating then they cant get the energy and their energy is screwed.

SA is trying to keep all the sunni nations in line. this is why your seeing the food aid.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...al-gas-rush-won-t-bring-export-riches-for-now
Iran is on track to out-produce Qatar, the world’s biggest LNG exporter, at the vast natural gas deposit they share in the Persian Gulf. Its officials want to gain market share and attract foreign capital, even as U.S. President Donald Trump ratchets up confrontational rhetoric against Iran. But as much as they might want, the Iranians won’t have much gas to export because they are likely to use most of the new production themselves.

1. How much natural gas does Iran export?

Almost nothing. Iran has 18.2 percent of proven gas reserves, ahead of Russia and Qatar, according to the BP Statistical Review of World Energy. Unlike its competitors, which have built far-flung pipelines and liquefied natural gas plants to reach foreign buyers, Iran exported 8.4 billion cubic meters (300 billion cubic feet) in 2015 while importing 7.5 billion cubic meters the same year. Until recently, it was a net importer, buying or bartering for gas from Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan because its domestic distribution network doesn’t supply the entire country. Iran exports less gas by pipeline than Myanmar or Kazakhstan, which together hold less than 1 percent of global reserves.
2. So where is all Iran’s gas going?

Half of it goes to warming homes, 21 percent to generating power and 18 percent for industrial use, including petrochemicals production, according to Cedigaz, an industry research group. Iran, with about 80 million people, is the fourth-biggest market for natural gas, after the U.S., Russia and China. New production can barely keep up with demand. Gas consumption almost doubled to 191.2 billion cubic meters in 2015 from 102.7 billion in 2005, according to BP statistics, while output rose over the same period to 192.5 billion cubic meters from 102.3 billion.
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also what food aid do you mean?? any links or info would be appreciated :)
 
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...al-gas-rush-won-t-bring-export-riches-for-now
Iran is on track to out-produce Qatar, the world’s biggest LNG exporter, at the vast natural gas deposit they share in the Persian Gulf. Its officials want to gain market share and attract foreign capital, even as U.S. President Donald Trump ratchets up confrontational rhetoric against Iran. But as much as they might want, the Iranians won’t have much gas to export because they are likely to use most of the new production themselves.

1. How much natural gas does Iran export?

Almost nothing. Iran has 18.2 percent of proven gas reserves, ahead of Russia and Qatar, according to the BP Statistical Review of World Energy. Unlike its competitors, which have built far-flung pipelines and liquefied natural gas plants to reach foreign buyers, Iran exported 8.4 billion cubic meters (300 billion cubic feet) in 2015 while importing 7.5 billion cubic meters the same year. Until recently, it was a net importer, buying or bartering for gas from Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan because its domestic distribution network doesn’t supply the entire country. Iran exports less gas by pipeline than Myanmar or Kazakhstan, which together hold less than 1 percent of global reserves.
2. So where is all Iran’s gas going?

Half of it goes to warming homes, 21 percent to generating power and 18 percent for industrial use, including petrochemicals production, according to Cedigaz, an industry research group. Iran, with about 80 million people, is the fourth-biggest market for natural gas, after the U.S., Russia and China. New production can barely keep up with demand. Gas consumption almost doubled to 191.2 billion cubic meters in 2015 from 102.7 billion in 2005, according to BP statistics, while output rose over the same period to 192.5 billion cubic meters from 102.3 billion.
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also what food aid do you mean?? any links or info would be appreciated :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pars_/_North_Dome_Gas-Condensate_field

iran is now sending 100 tons of food to qatar to keep them going i think daily

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-iran-idUSKBN1920EG
 
ah..so the blockade is more then a MILITARY blockade! I did not know that.

Qatar was importing 80 percent of its food requirements from bigger Gulf Arab neighbors before they cut ties with the nation of 2.5 million people last week.
I did not know that..I wonder if there are any other ties between Iran and Qatar?
other then economic over the nat gas..?

And this is yet another reason for the "Sunni schism"(my words) between Egypt/SA and Qatar..

Qatar has been in talks with Iran and Turkey to secure food and water supplies after Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Bahrain cut links, accusing Doha of supporting terrorism. Qatar says the allegations are based on lies.
 
Saudis move to ease humanitarian crisis spawned by Qatar blockade

Because of new restrictions imposed by the blockade on both residence and travel, ‎as many as 10,000 families have been split up over demands Qatari citizens leave the neighboring countries where they had been living, with many leaving spouses and families behind.

Saudi Arabia's King Salman is now directing his Kingdom's Interior Ministry to address such cases of forced repatriation.

In the first of a pair of tweets posted on the state-run ‎Saudi Press Agency, the Qataris are referred to as "brotherly people." The tweet says King Salman wants to “take care of the humanitarian cases of the Saudi-Qatari joint families.”

he blockade, launched over Qatar’s alleged ties to terrorism, has brought the United States into the diplomatic fray.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson ‎called on Saudi Arabia and other Arab nations to ease the blockade, citing the humanitarian crisis.

"We are seeing shortages of food, families are being forcibly separated, and children pulled put of school. We believe these are unintended consequences, especially during the Holy Month of Ramadan, but they can be addressed immediately," he said.

While State Department officials are encouraged by the latest steps, it appears Russia also could be getting a foothold in the crisis.

Qatar's Foreign Minister Sheikh Mohammad bin Abdulrahman al-Thani was in Moscow for talks on the blockade earlier Saturday.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...itarian-crisis-spawned-by-qatar-blockade.html
 
In Doha these days the “situation” – a week-old blockade of Qatar by its Gulf Arab neighbours led by Saudi Arabia which has closed most air routes, shut borders and seen Qatar’s neighbours order its citizens out – is unavoidable.

It is the talk of expat dinner parties and casual meetings between academics at the foreign universities and thinktanks, and it dominates the media. Government officials ask visiting reporters for their opinion of the “situation” as if the reassurance of a supportive view might make it go away.

A week after Saudi Arabia, the United Emirates, Bahrain and Egypt imposed the embargo – in a move backed overtly by the US president, Donald Trump – Qataris are still attempting to unravel what triggered it and where the crisis is heading.

The blockade threatens to split thousands of families across the region where one partner is a Qatari, and it has forced planes arriving in Doha – a major transport hub – to enter via a narrow corridor over Iran that undermines the national carrier’s viability.

Dairy products that once came from Qatar’s neighbours – and briefly disappeared from supermarket shelves – now come by air from Turkey, which last week passed a law allowing it to send troops to Qatar along with the supplies of yoghurt and leben. Iran sent four cargo planes of food on Sunday and plans to provide 100 tonnes of fruit and vegetable every day, officials in Tehran have said.

The blockade has also led to shortages of US currency in exchange houses used by foreign workers, who make up 90% of the population, to send money home.

“I spoke with my wife this morning. She said: ‘Send your savings to me now.’ I am not panicked, but my family are scared,” said John Vincent, an air-conditioning repairman from the Philippines queueing at one exchange house.

For most residents, however, the Gulf’s worst crisis in three decades has been marked by a strained sense of normality.

Families crowded the shops in Doha’s vast City Centre mall on Friday to collect traditional gift bags of sweets for the Ramadan festival of Garangao. The big hotels, while quieter than usual, have filled up each evening with Qataris coming to eat at the Ramadan iftar buffets

The anxiety is more discreet. Lawyers for big construction projects are quietly digging out their contracts as shipments of building materials are delayed or dry up.

“Where is it all heading? That’s the question everyone is asking here,” said Nader Kabbani, the director of research for the Brookings Institution in Doha. “At the moment everyone is just trying figure stuff out ... but a lot of it is guess work.”
The ostensible reason for blockade is the claim that the Qataris have, in Trump’s words, “historically been a funder of terrorism at a very high level”. This, however, is as easily applicable to Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states.

The reality appears to be an attempt led by Saudi Arabia and the UAE to punish Qatar for its independent foreign policy underwritten by an expansive and canny global investment strategy from London to Tokyo. The county has hosted members of the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas and pursued a conciliatory relationship with Iran, with which it shares a large gas field.

“The Qatar-Saudi feud seems to have come out of thin air,” says Junaid Ahmad, an academic based in the US who studies the Gulf. “But the reality is that this has been going on for quite a while.

“All this hyperbolic language we have seen in the last week from Saudi and its allies – how Qatar supports the Houthis in Yemen or the Shia opposition in Bahrain - is about Qatar being neutral. And neutral cannot be tolerated, especially where it comes to Iran.”

The embargo brings its own risks for Saudi Arabia. As Qatar’s foreign minister, Sheik Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani, has toured foreign capitals, the tiny emirate has garnered increasing international sympathy
More serious still, say some observers, is that far from distancing Qatar from Iran and Turkey, the blockade could push the emirate ever closer to them.

The pressure on Qatar may have financial consequences too for its neighbours as it is forced to seek alternative port and supply arrangements which, if the crisis endures, could become more permanent. Doha is also briefing teams of international lawyers in London, Washington and elsewhere to challenge those behind the blockade – not least its impact on the national airline – with a view to seeking reparations.

There is also the question of how the apparently highly-coordinated move has focused attention as much on Qatar’s neighbours and their agendas as on the allegations against the emirate – including claims that cyberwar tactics were used to trigger the crisis.

Qatari and FBI investigators now believe a virus was introduced into the country’s state news agency on 20 April. It lay dormant until 24 May, when hackers allegedly introduced false remarks attributed to the emir that appeared friendly to Iran and Israel and questioned whether Trump would continue in office.

Qatari officials have also linked the hacking attack to what they say has been a coordinated lobbying campaign against the emirate around the same time and a series of visits – both publicised and private – by senior officials involved in thecoalition against it to Washington and elsewhere going back to December.

“To us this is an act of aggression and the focus should be the crime of the hacking that occurred. We should not move away from that focus,” said Sheik Saif Ahmad al-Thani, the director of Qatar’s government communication office.

Doha has also homed in on reports of an alleged series of hacked emails exchanged between the UAE’s ambassador to the US and the neo-conservative Foundation for Defence of Democracies thinktank in the run-up to announcement of the blockade discussing the role of al-Jazeera and Qatar.

Leaked to The Intercept and several other media organisations it suggests – if nothing else – strong and private lobbying against Qatar.

“I think Qatar’s opponents were certainly lobbying,” said Christopher Davidson, the author of The Shadow Wars: The Secret Struggle for the Middle East.

“I think the future that they see for Qatar, if not regime change, is that it needs to be stripped of its foreign policy and independent political resources. It needs to be a vassal.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-situation-as-blockade-against-emirate-bites
 
“All this hyperbolic language we have seen in the last week from Saudi and its allies – how Qatar supports the Houthis in Yemen or the Shia opposition in Bahrain - is about Qatar being neutral. And neutral cannot be tolerated, especially where it comes to Iran.”
 
btw that russian hacking or whatever had nothing to do with it. The funding for terrorists was never more than an excuse for the blockade.
 
btw that russian hacking or whatever had nothing to do with it. The funding for terrorists was never more than an excuse for the blockade.
Xactly so. Notice how that storyline has disappeared?

That's a perfect ex. of the Deep State (FBI in this case) putting out some BS about "Russian hackers" -
supposedly investigating ..and then nothing. But in the meantime "Russian hackers" was the headline.

I hate those D.State bastards
 
Xactly so. Notice how that storyline has disappeared?

That's a perfect ex. of the Deep State (FBI in this case) putting out some BS about "Russian hackers" -
supposedly investigating ..and then nothing. But in the meantime "Russian hackers" was the headline.

I hate those D.State bastards

thats different from our issues those. Anyone who knew anything about qatar and SA immediatly realized that the funding of terrorists was never more than an excuse.
 
thats different from our issues those. Anyone who knew anything about qatar and SA immediatly realized that the funding of terrorists was never more than an excuse.
It's certainly overblown.
Qatar has been doing this a long time. Maybe SA had enough..Maybe SA feels emboldened by Trump's visit?

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/14/how-does-isis-fund-its-reign-terror-282607.html
Washington Institute for Near East Policy in Washington, D.C., tells Newsweek that private donors across the Persian Gulf are continuing to funnel money to ISIS.
“Qatar and Kuwait continue to stick out as two trouble spots when it comes to counterterrorist financing enforcement,” she said. Continued financial sanctions imposed on Kuwait and Qatar terrorist financiers by the U.S. Treasury “suggest the U.S. government continues to be concerned about spotty, to say the least, Kuwaiti and Qatari enforcement of their counterterrorist financing laws.”

A couple of factors are frustrating attempts to dam these rivers of cash. First, the relatively open banking systems of Qatar and Kuwait are being skillfully exploited by ISIS, since, unlike Saudi banks, they do not automatically raise red flags when money is siphoned to Islamist causes.

Second, Qatar and Kuwait are loath to limit the activities of highly influential ISIS donors due to the political fallout such intervention may cause. In Kuwait, a family of parliamentarians—including Kuwaiti member of parliament Mohammed Hayef al-Mutairi—has raised funds for jihadist groups with direct ties to ISIS. “Cracking down on some ISIS financiers is politically complicated for these countries’ leaderships,” Boghardt says.

Funds tend to reach ISIS militants by a circuitous route, frequently flowing from Qatar to Kuwait, which operates as a clearinghouse for funds headed to Syria and Iraq, according to the Washington think tank the Brookings Institution.
These donations, Newsweek has learned, are also routinely laundered through unregistered charities in the form of “humanitarian aid,”
 
It's certainly overblown.
Qatar has been doing this a long time. Maybe SA had enough..Maybe SA feels emboldened by Trump's visit?

http://www.newsweek.com/2014/11/14/how-does-isis-fund-its-reign-terror-282607.html
Washington Institute for Near East Policy in Washington, D.C., tells Newsweek that private donors across the Persian Gulf are continuing to funnel money to ISIS.

A couple of factors are frustrating attempts to dam these rivers of cash. First, the relatively open banking systems of Qatar and Kuwait are being skillfully exploited by ISIS, since, unlike Saudi banks, they do not automatically raise red flags when money is siphoned to Islamist causes.

Second, Qatar and Kuwait are loath to limit the activities of highly influential ISIS donors due to the political fallout such intervention may cause. In Kuwait, a family of parliamentarians—including Kuwaiti member of parliament Mohammed Hayef al-Mutairi—has raised funds for jihadist groups with direct ties to ISIS. “Cracking down on some ISIS financiers is politically complicated for these countries’ leaderships,” Boghardt says.

Funds tend to reach ISIS militants by a circuitous route, frequently flowing from Qatar to Kuwait, which operates as a clearinghouse for funds headed to Syria and Iraq, according to the Washington think tank the Brookings Institution.
These donations, Newsweek has learned, are also routinely laundered through unregistered charities in the form of “humanitarian aid,”

i just told u why they are doing it
 
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