cawacko
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Worth ethic isn't dead because we don't use prisoners as slave labor.
And people generally don't go to prison because they think it's a free party.
At $75,560, housing a prisoner in California now costs more than a year at Harvard
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Worth ethic isn't dead because we don't use prisoners as slave labor.
And people generally don't go to prison because they think it's a free party.
Do you think ppl do a crime, hurt someone so they can go to prison?
Many in prison want to work, even if it's just getting a pittance.. The system of abuse is well documented, you might find it an interesting read some day..
I have seen some mentally ill want to go to jail for a few days to clean up etc~but then they are mentally ill..
Exactly opposite...work ethic is dead because we don't use prisoners for non-slave labor. They aren't in prison because they are innocent (as the original slaves were).
They're in prison because they are guilty of breaking laws. It is labor which benefits them by keeping them focused and disciplined mentally, emotionally and physically while giving them skills to be productive later in society. It benefits the public by alleviating some portion of the bill for their keep.
How many of the armchair quarterbacks around here are actually involved with their local prisons and the incarcerated souls there? I am and have been for years with a major women's prison here where I live. I visit with the women working on the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation farm located on the grounds. None of them committed crimes because they wanted to go to prison. But, they got caught, were prosecuted and ended up there. Some for months and some for years. These women spend their days caring for all aspects of the horses' needs. Mucking the stalls, bathing them, grooming them, feeding them, exercising them, learn farrier skills, clean the bathrooms, mowing the many acres, planting gardens, maintaining the plumbing and take accredited courses in large animal veterinary class under the direction of their supervisor who is a very well known former thoroughbred racehorse trainer. The girls learned construction 'on the fly' and actually helped build the main barn from the ground up.
The hundreds I've spoken with allllllll say this is what has turned their thinking around and is giving them a wonderful 2nd chance for a worthwhile life once they leave. And, not ONE of them ever told me they didn't belong there. They all admitted they were guilty of what they were charged with and accept full responsibility for their actions. They love getting outside and sweating their butts off working together toward a common goal and are always encouraging each other. Most feel they would be dead by now if they had NOT been caught and forced to turn their lives around. It's psychologically beneficial to work physically. It gets those endorphins going, burns off steam, anger, resentment, bitterness and gives them a good night's sleep. They've told me it makes them too tired to want to fight, LOL. They say the main troublemakers at the prison are the ones who choose to stay inside with a lot of empty time on their hands.
So, slave labor? No. Hard work builds laborers, not slaves.
http://www.trfinc.org/
Mouse over dropdown "TRF Second Chances"
Click on "Lowell Correctional Institution"
They're in prison because they are guilty of breaking laws. It is labor which benefits them by keeping them focused and disciplined mentally, emotionally and physically while giving them skills to be productive later in society. It benefits the public by alleviating some portion of the bill for their keep.
How many of the armchair quarterbacks around here are actually involved with their local prisons and the incarcerated souls there? I am and have been for years with a major women's prison here where I live. I visit with the women working on the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation farm located on the grounds. None of them committed crimes because they wanted to go to prison. But, they got caught, were prosecuted and ended up there. Some for months and some for years. These women spend their days caring for all aspects of the horses' needs. Mucking the stalls, bathing them, grooming them, feeding them, exercising them, learn farrier skills, clean the bathrooms, mowing the many acres, planting gardens, maintaining the plumbing and take accredited courses in large animal veterinary class under the direction of their supervisor who is a very well known former thoroughbred racehorse trainer. The girls learned construction 'on the fly' and actually helped build the main barn from the ground up.
The hundreds I've spoken with allllllll say this is what has turned their thinking around and is giving them a wonderful 2nd chance for a worthwhile life once they leave. And, not ONE of them ever told me they didn't belong there. They all admitted they were guilty of what they were charged with and accept full responsibility for their actions. They love getting outside and sweating their butts off working together toward a common goal and are always encouraging each other. Most feel they would be dead by now if they had NOT been caught and forced to turn their lives around. It's psychologically beneficial to work physically. It gets those endorphins going, burns off steam, anger, resentment, bitterness and gives them a good night's sleep. They've told me it makes them too tired to want to fight, LOL. They say the main troublemakers at the prison are the ones who choose to stay inside with a lot of empty time on their hands.
So, slave labor? No. Hard work builds laborers, not slaves.
http://www.trfinc.org/
Mouse over dropdown "TRF Second Chances"
Click on "Lowell Correctional Institution"
I will be happy to comment on your opinions when you get a bit more informed.. This shit was done away w/ for a reason, one you have no idea of-as OldMerc use to say "hit the books".........
You people have no humility, no understanding of real life, you just read and spout. Stay in your bubble of the past. You have no interest whatsoever in present day real life experiences of positive changes to whatever may have been at one time in the past a negative one. Enjoy a gloom and doom outlook on life or get involved yourself to effect positive changes in prisoners' lives.
Looks like I hit a nerve. Sorry my dear but it is you that live in a bubble of your own making... Read, learn, educate yourself, you might be surprised what you find out..
I'll help if you like, anywayz you have a nice day.
Looks like I hit a nerve. Sorry my dear but it is you that live in a bubble of your own making... Read, learn, educate yourself, you might be surprised what you find out..
I'll help if you like, anywayz you have a nice day.
Real life experience and you snub your nose at it...says it all.
cawacko
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I don't know a large number of people who have spent time in prison but of the few I do I haven't heard anyone say it was a cake walk and that being in prison beats having to get a job in the real world.
People are 'convicted' by a jury of their peers after evidence is presented.....not the government.
Lightbringer
Loves Me Some Souls
Never been on trial, have you?
And before you even go there...yes, i have been. And guess what? Cops lie.
cawacko
Well-known member
the reality is most cases don't go to trial so when cases get plead it really is the gov't convicting them.
I agree. It's not a cake walk and being beaten in some prison would be barbaric.
I agree, there are cops who lie.
Lightbringer
Loves Me Some Souls
Yeah, I know. The sad thing is that a lot of cops I know are decent guys but the profession isn't as honorable as many Americans like to believe it is. They're really not good guys. They're not evil either but they definitely shouldn't be placed on a pedestal.
Other than being totally wrong, yea..........
You don't know me so pls don't project your misguided bias & prejudices on me..
I asked you to learn a bit more if you are going to discuss something~if that is a bad thing I am guilty but I don't say it as harm or hurt to you..
Lightbringer
Loves Me Some Souls
I guess that's a matter of perspective.
My perspective is "What is necessary in a civilized society?" I have to ask myself, "What do I need?"
Extremely basic needs like food, water, shelter, clothes. But, the next level would be police and firefighters to help protect my life, belongings and shelter. Next might be medical professionals for helping with health concerns. Unfortunately, corruption can infect all of these as well as members of every profession out there.
Text Drivers are Killers
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Then you don't know many blacks. Most can't even read and can't get a job even with all the affirmative action programs. They like prison.
Text Drivers are Killers
Joe Biden - "Time to put Trump in the bullseye."
Get a gun and protect your own life, you pathetic pussy.