The Politics of Migration: From Blue to Red

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This is an interesting analysis. Worth a read.


Democratic “blue” state attitudes may dominate the national media, but they can’t yet tell people where to live. Despite all the hype about a massive “back to the city” movement and the supposed superiority of ultra-expensive liberal regions, people are increasingly moving to red states and regions, as well as to suburbs and exurbs.

This is the basic takeaway from the most recent IRS data and Census Bureau estimates, which have been widely ignored in the established media. Essentially, Americans are rejecting what Walter Russell Mead has labelled “the blue model,” and relocating to cities, states and regions that are less dense, less heavily taxed, and less regulated.

This suggests not an intrinsic political calculation so much as a series of very personal decisions by individuals and families. People move for varied reasons -- cheaper homes, lower taxes, employment opportunities, better schools, more value to the paycheck -- but the upshot is that they are settling in states that tend to be red or, at least, purple in political coloration.

In 2016 alone, states that supported Donald Trump gained 400,000 domestic migrants from states that supported Hillary Clinton. This came on top of an existing advantage in net domestic red state migration of 1.45 million people from 2010 through 2015. Contrary to popular perception, these blue state emigres aren’t all fleeing economically challenged places such as upstate New York or inland California. Mostly, they have left the biggest cities, which are the electoral base of the Democratic Party. Metropolitan New York has led the way in out-migration, followed by Los Angeles and Chicago. Since 2000, these metropolitan areas have lost a net 5.5 million domestic migrants to other parts of the country.

Even economic boom conditions have failed to reverse this trend. Overall, many big blue core cities now have overall population growth rates well below the somewhat tepid national average of 0.7 percent. So, who’s growing? Last year, all 10 of the top gainers in domestic migration were Sunbelt metropolitan areas: Austin, Tampa-St. Petersburg, Raleigh, Jacksonville, Las Vegas, Charlotte, Orlando, Nashville, Phoenix and San Antonio.

Much more here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/04/24/the_politics_of_migration_from_blue_to_red__133681.html
 
This is an interesting analysis. Worth a read.


Democratic “blue” state attitudes may dominate the national media, but they can’t yet tell people where to live. Despite all the hype about a massive “back to the city” movement and the supposed superiority of ultra-expensive liberal regions, people are increasingly moving to red states and regions, as well as to suburbs and exurbs.

This is the basic takeaway from the most recent IRS data and Census Bureau estimates, which have been widely ignored in the established media. Essentially, Americans are rejecting what Walter Russell Mead has labelled “the blue model,” and relocating to cities, states and regions that are less dense, less heavily taxed, and less regulated.

This suggests not an intrinsic political calculation so much as a series of very personal decisions by individuals and families. People move for varied reasons -- cheaper homes, lower taxes, employment opportunities, better schools, more value to the paycheck -- but the upshot is that they are settling in states that tend to be red or, at least, purple in political coloration.

In 2016 alone, states that supported Donald Trump gained 400,000 domestic migrants from states that supported Hillary Clinton. This came on top of an existing advantage in net domestic red state migration of 1.45 million people from 2010 through 2015. Contrary to popular perception, these blue state emigres aren’t all fleeing economically challenged places such as upstate New York or inland California. Mostly, they have left the biggest cities, which are the electoral base of the Democratic Party. Metropolitan New York has led the way in out-migration, followed by Los Angeles and Chicago. Since 2000, these metropolitan areas have lost a net 5.5 million domestic migrants to other parts of the country.

Even economic boom conditions have failed to reverse this trend. Overall, many big blue core cities now have overall population growth rates well below the somewhat tepid national average of 0.7 percent. So, who’s growing? Last year, all 10 of the top gainers in domestic migration were Sunbelt metropolitan areas: Austin, Tampa-St. Petersburg, Raleigh, Jacksonville, Las Vegas, Charlotte, Orlando, Nashville, Phoenix and San Antonio.

Much more here: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...cs_of_migration_from_blue_to_red__133681.html
Sounds like an aging population is moving to warmer climes.
Once one doesn't need to work and is on a fixed income, that seems like a good idea.
 
Sounds like an aging population is moving to warmer climes.
Once one doesn't need to work and is on a fixed income, that seems like a good idea.

That is one part. The article really gets into millennials and gen x'rs leaving also. I just thought it was interesting.
 
Alright ,I will check it out.
Thanks

Hey fuckstick where did you run off to? I showed you illegals who voted and you said it never happens. You said they can't do it.

Care to concede now? Or will you go all Zappas pussytard and claim "it's only a couple, it's really rare"?

I think I know what you will do, but maybe you will surprise me

Hey did Darla tell you she sucked my dick last night? How does it taste?

Bwahahahahahahahahhahaha
 
I have always considered this to be piss poor logic: people moving from blue states to red states means the country will become more conservative.

You know what happened when a bunch of Californians moved to Colorado and Nevada?

That's right. Those state started voting more Democratic, at least in presidential elections.

I always wondered what kind of crack these dudes were smoking when they came up with the implausible theory that simply moving your body to another state changed your personal politics.

Forget about party labels. Forget about Democrats versus Republicans. The country is getting more liberal. Decade by decade. Inexorably. Only within our life times, Gay marriage, legal marijuana, and a large, national government funded health care program were considered impossible in the recent past.
 
Cypress isn't wrong in what he's saying. People flee the expensive areas where they are living but bring the same politics with them that created the high cost they couldn't afford and want it implemented in their new area.
 
Cypress isn't wrong in what he's saying. People flee the expensive areas where they are living but bring the same politics with them that created the high cost they couldn't afford and want it implemented in their new area.

Then the county breakdown election map is relevant. Cypress is wrong.
 
I have always considered this to be piss poor logic: people moving from blue states to red states means the country will become more conservative.

You know what happened when a bunch of Californians moved to Colorado and Nevada?

That's right. Those state started voting more Democratic, at least in presidential elections.

I always wondered what kind of crack these dudes were smoking when they came up with the implausible theory that simply moving your body to another state changed your personal politics.

Forget about party labels. Forget about Democrats versus Republicans. The country is getting more liberal. Decade by decade. Inexorably. Only within our life times, Gay marriage, legal marijuana, and a large, national government funded health care program were considered impossible in the recent past.





yeap


what is good economically for red states makes them more blue in the end


republicans will lie about everything


facts are not their friends
 
yeap


what is good economically for red states makes them more blue in the end


republicans will lie about everything


facts are not their friends

Liberals destroy blue states then migrate to red states.

Look at all the New Yorkers that moved to Florida

Liberals are a cancer
 
Imagine if all states were as prosperous as California is


Russians hate that idea so they champion republican short bus economic ideas and go with the austrian school
 
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