Candidates Word Clouds - Clinton's 'email' problem was bigger than anyone realized

Rune said:
Are you really claiming Trump is not a pathological liar?
You burned the balony brother.
You have the equivalent of a wet brain.
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It is genuinely stunning to me that anyone can at this point try to deny Trump's rampant dishonesty and just try to marginalize it as "careless bloviating."

I'd get a supporter of his saying that they see it but don't care about it, because it's all about the policies. But to try to claim that he had no real issues w/ the truth?

Total denial.
 
GazzaQueen said:
He sure doesn't seem to lie about his campaign promises.
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you got that right girlfriend

Creating jobs, getting rid of Obamacare, getting rid of job killing regulations, tax reform, the wall. there WILL be wall by the way.

On things that matter he not only told the truth but will be open about who is obstructing his promises if they get in the way
 
Thing1 said:
It's embarrassing that you guys don't see the pathology.

I have no problem at all admitting Clinton lies. Your defense of Trump's CONSTANT dishonesty just shows the hackery.
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of course I see his pathology..am I not speaking English???
It's the pathology of being constantly ego driven.
he feels he has to win every contest, even when he should not be playing the game, or ceeding the pawn.
He bloviates for no reason except for self aggrandizement. It's narcissistic in nature,.
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do you not see Clinton's pathology? Obfuscation to the point of sociopathic denial of reality.
I mean there were"C's" actually marked on her Emails,and when confronted she defaults to blaming those around her
( same as she does regarding as losing the election/her pattern) or denying the placement actually meant it wasn't classified

her's is a desperation to escape accountability,even at the cost of denying the manifest truths (reality)
 
Getin the ring said:
if we can be civilized for a moment in debate.

The difference is that your claims of trumps lying are followed by that they are grounds for impeachment, that all he does is wrapped in dishonesty. When all the while they are trivial x10.
"he lied about crowd sizes at the inauguration"? are you serious
"he said he had the most electoral votes since Regan" are you serious?

so we shoot him? breakout the firing squad?

it's the ridiculousness of the extremity of your claim, not that you are not somewhat correct in his uttering a falsehood, and I know you are smarter than that not to know what I am saying
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I haven't called for impeachment.

His lies aren't all about trivial matters. Trump has major issues w/ the truth - his credibility, both here & abroad, IS an issue, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

I prefer a more honest President. And yeah - Obama was a LOT more honest. It's extremely telling that the only one you guys can bring up is the healthcare line. That's it.

I didn't vote for Hillary - part because of the Iraq vote, and part due to her own issues w/ the truth. But Trump is on another level to me. He's like a cartoon.
 
Thing1 said:
I haven't called for impeachment.

His lies aren't all about trivial matters. Trump has major issues w/ the truth - his credibility, both here & abroad, IS an issue, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

I prefer a more honest President. And yeah - Obama was a LOT more honest. It's extremely telling that the only one you guys can bring up is the healthcare line. That's it.

I didn't vote for Hillary - part because of the Iraq vote, and part due to her own issues w/ the truth. But Trump is on another level to me. He's like a cartoon.
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Please. Healthcare, F&F, IRS, workplace violence, spying on the AP and culling their reporter's private info, monitoring Rosen's emails and phone calls, Holder potential perjury...I can go on if you like.
 
Thing1 said:
I haven't called for impeachment.

His lies aren't all about trivial matters. Trump has major issues w/ the truth - his credibility, both here & abroad, IS an issue, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

I prefer a more honest President. And yeah - Obama was a LOT more honest. It's extremely telling that the only one you guys can bring up is the healthcare line. That's it.

I didn't vote for Hillary - part because of the Iraq vote, and part due to her own issues w/ the truth. But Trump is on another level to me. He's like a cartoon.
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Obama ran a corrupted DoJ..He blamed everyone else but himself for his failures ( sound familiar?)- but he had a servile press that didn't dig into his statements either.

One the whole though he didn't accomplish anything ( past HC), and his foreign policy I describe charitably as "benign neglect"
 
Obama as the worst ever, may not even be know by historians as having ever held the office, his legacy belongs somewhere more along the lines of "busing" or "inner city school vouchers" in the halls of history
 
I hate to break it to you, but you guys are really hacks.

Obama wasn't great, but nor was he terrible. He took over the Presidency after one of the worst crashes in our history, and like it or not, the market tripled and we had the longest stretch of employment growth in years. He was a solid leader at a tough time, and his historical ranking will reflect that. He'll be nowhere near the bottom.

You guys are just hatahs.
 
Thing1 said:
I hate to break it to you, but you guys are really hacks.

Obama wasn't great, but nor was he terrible. He took over the Presidency after one of the worst crashes in our history, and like it or not, the market tripled and we had the longest stretch of employment growth in years. He was a solid leader at a tough time, and his historical ranking will reflect that. He'll be nowhere near the bottom.

You guys are just hatahs.
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You said he was the most honest. I proved he wasn't.

He was a failed experiment. That's about it.
 
Thing1 said:
I've made this case before, and I don't think it's really disputable: while Clinton and Trump are both dishonest individuals, Clinton's lying is much more "hand caught in the cookie jar" variety. She lies to cover herself.

Trump lies like he breathes. It's more just something he does. He is a pathological liar of the highest level - there really isn't a comparison to Clinton in that respect.
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So Hillary is the good kinda liar you can get behind?

Way to compartmentalize.
 
GazzaQueen said:
You said he was the most honest. I proved he wasn't.

He was a failed experiment. That's about it.
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You didn't really prove anything. You didn't list verifiable lies.

Seriously - the only one ever referenced by you & yours is the "keep your" line for healthcare. Obama was definitely more honest than either Trump or Hillary.

Sorry 'bout that.
 
Thing1 said:
I hate to break it to you, but you guys are really hacks.

Obama wasn't great, but nor was he terrible. He took over the Presidency after one of the worst crashes in our history, and like it or not, the market tripled and we had the longest stretch of employment growth in years. He was a solid leader at a tough time, and his historical ranking will reflect that. He'll be nowhere near the bottom.

You guys are just hatahs.
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but he never tried to transition past Obamacare as he promised; he held on to his political capitol to bolster his likeability instead.
His foreign policy was a disaster; from alienating Egypt and the Sunni states and a worthless Iran deal,
while not dealing with Putin -here he's a failure on foreign policy..

And then there was Libya. he created a failed terrorist state out of a prosperous Libya. Horrid.

And the debt..oh man he doubled the national debt for Stimulus..
and his zealous over-regulations.

He's an average POTUS boosted by the Stimulus,but dragged down by an incompetent foreign policy
 
Thing1 said:
You didn't really prove anything. You didn't list verifiable lies.

Seriously - the only one ever referenced by you & yours is the "keep your" line for healthcare. Obama was definitely more honest than either Trump or Hillary.

Sorry 'bout that.
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Those are all scandals, whether you like it or not.

Failed experiment. That's about it.
 
blackascoal said:
With all due respect .. seek therapy.
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No need to. I still think the topic of the election is fascinating, historically so.
Shit, hundreds and hundreds of books were written about the JFK assassination long after the act.
If (notice big)dims were smart they'd use info such as in the OP to learn from their mistakes. Unfortunately for them they just keep making excuses and whining about getting more total votes which will not help them at all.
blackascoal said:
Trump and his administration are blowing apart everywhere almost daily and here you are still talking about Clinton and her emails.

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The OP is not about Trump directly. It's about analyzing a historical election
 
Obama was like the snake oil salesman in the Wizard of Oz, talked eloquently and said nothing.

In his defense he wasn't prepared, qualified, or in all likelihood worthy.
You get what you get when you vote a man or woman in that does not put country above party, or himself.
Watching Obama pimp around it was clear he was enjoying the trip rather than making the trip.
real leaders make the trip, own the trip, knowing they will be able to look back and enjoy the trip afterwards.

Now he will grow old and read book after book looking for a single accomplishment he can hang his hat on and it just won't be there.
"The wasted 8 years" will likely be the title. He had so much promise in accomplishment if nothing else to unite the country that had supported him across color lines.
But instead we stand as racially divided as we have ever been, maybe since slavery itself. He played to his race and demonized the rest. A sad sad shell of a man he became.

trump is determined to be a leader for all, he loathes the GOP as much as he loathes the Democrats. His disdain for the system is on his shirt sleeve. That is what real Americans like about him, I have no clue what liberals are whining about, but I opine it is just most are not use to losing, even though they may have won too they just can't wrap around the idea of America first.

maybe in 8 years they can educate themselves.
 
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