Trump wants to impose work requirement for food stamp users

ok lets make something clear, being paid something for DOING something, is not slavery.

If they don't like our (the taxpayers) demands to work for OUR money, then they can fuck right off and figure somehow else to survive.

If it's My money, it's my say on what you have to do to get it.
So what would you do then? If in an area of high unemployment someone is on food stamps would you have them work for nothing and pay their own travel and other expenses to clean out the sewers to make you feel better?

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So what would you do then? If in an area of high unemployment someone is on food stamps would you have them work for nothing and pay their own travel and other expenses to clean out the sewers to make you feel better?

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Well I don't believe in handouts at all. But if we were to have them, they should do whatever taxpayers demand. If I want them to do jumping jacks before getting my money they will do just that. If they don't comply then they can simply die. Their choice.
 
In the old days the weak and the takers were naturally selected out. We have no universal moral imperative to save these wretches. Modern society has made us forget that some people are just born losers. Not all human beings are cut out for life. If it weren't for handouts they would literally just die in their own shit without lifting a finger. Automatons. Animals. Takers. This idea that most people yearn to breathe free is a joke. For most, serfdom is in their blood, their destiny and their calling. It's the natural order.
 
I think it'd be cool that if one were on welfare for more than say a year or two, in order to stay on it they would have to give up citizenship or voting rights.

At some point, an adult human needs to decide.. are they going to be a maker? Are they going to be proactive and help shape their countries path as it forges forward? Or are they going to sit on the sidelines mouth agape, like a loser louse. If they want to be a prole, an animal, someone that gets nursed out of a bottle, we perhaps should let them, but they must condemn themselves to the obscurity they deserve. Losers should not get to control the direction of this nation. Loser takers shouldn't be able to vote or have any say on anything. They are essentially children, incapable of being a self sufficient individual. I think they would be a fair compromise. They admit to their loser status, their status of someone to be stepped over. If they do that, they can have some of my money.
 
Working for a living gives a person a sense of worth.

I think the word you're looking for is purpose. Work gives you a sense of purpose. If your work is what gives you your sense of worth, you need to seek help. It's the money that gives the feeling of self worth.

LOL
 
Or you could mind your business.

When I'm one of those that is forced to feed, etc. those that won't do it for themselves and their children, it becomes MY business. If you don't want those of us forced to provide to those that WON'T provide for themselves to stop saying something about it, stop demanding we pay for those freeloaders.
 
So what would you do then? If in an area of high unemployment someone is on food stamps would you have them work for nothing and pay their own travel and other expenses to clean out the sewers to make you feel better?

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You guys always paint these Dickens stories to defend laziness.

If you feel so strongly about making sure someone doesn't go hungry why don't you dig in your own fucking pocket and take your own money and feed.

You can't seem to care that much if all you do is call for the gobblement to take other people's money to satisfy your own conscience.
 
I think it'd be cool that if one were on welfare for more than say a year or two, in order to stay on it they would have to give up citizenship or voting rights.

At some point, an adult human needs to decide.. are they going to be a maker? Are they going to be proactive and help shape their countries path as it forges forward? Or are they going to sit on the sidelines mouth agape, like a loser louse. If they want to be a prole, an animal, someone that gets nursed out of a bottle, we perhaps should let them, but they must condemn themselves to the obscurity they deserve. Losers should not get to control the direction of this nation. Loser takers shouldn't be able to vote or have any say on anything. They are essentially children, incapable of being a self sufficient individual. I think they would be a fair compromise. They admit to their loser status, their status of someone to be stepped over. If they do that, they can have some of my money.
I hate invoking Godwin's Law but that could very well be straight from Mein Kampf ffs. Of course you never know if you are "just trolling" or not. Fascist bastards like ILA, TDAK and CFM have some form of an excuse as they are all from shithole southern states, you are just a sociopath on that I am agreed with Mott and Desh.

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I hate invoking Godwin's Law but that could very well be straight from Mein Kampf ffs. Of course you never know if you are "just trolling" or not. Fascist bastards like ILA, TDAK and CFM have some form of an excuse as they are all from shithole southern states, you are just a sociopath on that I am agreed with Mott and Desh.

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All of your insults aside why do you not help these people yourself? Do you not think you would get as much satisfaction seeing them eat?

Are there limits to your compassion that leads you to demanding the gobblement do it?

Do you really think calling me names changes the underlying facts? I think you actually realize what a weak argument you have and all you can do is call people greedy

Greed is demanding something you haven't earned as if you have a right to it.
 
When I'm one of those that is forced to feed, etc. those that won't do it for themselves and their children, it becomes MY business. If you don't want those of us forced to provide to those that WON'T provide for themselves to stop saying something about it, stop demanding we pay for those freeloaders.

Tough shit asshole.

Just keep paying your taxes and SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I already told you... NOBODY FUCKING CARES IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT.

And the best part is... THERE'S NOT A DAMNED THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!!!

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All of your insults aside why do you not help these people yourself? Do you not think you would get as much satisfaction seeing them eat?

Are there limits to your compassion that leads you to demanding the gobblement do it?

Do you really think calling me names changes the underlying facts? I think you actually realize what a weak argument you have and all you can do is call people greedy

Greed is demanding something you haven't earned as if you have a right to it.

Well I suggest that you withhold the portion of taxes that you feel are unfair and notify the IRS, I'm sure they will agree with you and say fair enough you convinced us.

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Well I suggest that you withhold the portion of taxes that you feel are unfair and notify the IRS, I'm sure they will agree with you and say fair enough you convinced us.

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What a witty retort. It doesn't address the question but it is cute

Don't fret. You aren't the only one who has been unable to answer the question. I have never had a liberal answer the question. They always dance around it with non sequitors and ad hom
 
The welfare program in the states is out of control with fraud.
Not a day goes by that I don't see someone on the way to work with the rest of us using his welfare card to buy coffee and donuts while I whip out my hard earned cash.

You go into certain parts of any major city in this country and welfare cards are the standard form of payment.
Sit outside of any welfare office and see a steady stream of people pulling up in 30,000 dollar vehicles to go in and sign up. 600 dollar cell phones in hand.
 
The welfare program in the states is out of control with fraud.

Not a day goes by that I don't see someone on the way to work with the rest of us using his welfare card to buy coffee and donuts while I whip out my hard earned cash.

You go into certain parts of any major city in this country and welfare cards are the standard form of payment.
Sit outside of any welfare office and see a steady stream of people pulling up in 30,000 dollar vehicles to go in and sign up. 600 dollar cell phones in hand.

While it's certainly true that there is fraud and abuse in the system, your mischaracterization of it relies on some pretty extreme exaggeration.

Think Welfare Recipients Abuse The System? You Should See This Chart

Public assistance recipients haven’t gone without criticism.

They’ve been compared to “wild animals” by political candidates, scrutinized for simply buying seafood — as “The Daily Show” humorously pointed out — and would have to pee in cups to prove that they’re drug-free if some lawmakers had their way.

But for all the anecdotal horror stories about people abusing the welfare system for personal gain, the numbers tell a different story.

Below is a graph created by The Atlantic using numbers provided by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics’ Consumer Expenditures survey of 2011 — the most recent year for which data are available.

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As the chart shows, families receiving public assistance spend significantly less than families not receiving public assistance on essentially everything — including roughly half on housing, a third less on food, almost two-thirds less on entertainment and a fraction on healthcare.

With household budgets like these, public assistance recipients clearly aren’t abusing the system to live lavishly — they’re trying to make ends meet.

And from US News and World Report...

The Facts About Food Stamps Conservatives Don't Want You to Hear (link)

The data shows there is little waste, fraud or abuse in the food stamp program.
 
Conservatives should be required to live outside, tied up like dogs with a chain attached to a collar and be fed garbage.

HAHAHA. You call that a response? My post was "Food stamps should only be good for rice, flour, sugar, and rolled oats.", and that's all you can come up with.?
 
Well I don't believe in handouts at all. But if we were to have them, they should do whatever taxpayers demand. If I want them to do jumping jacks before getting my money they will do just that. If they don't comply then they can simply die. Their choice.
You will end up like Ayn Rand, poor and counting on the social safety net.
 
I think it'd be cool that if one were on welfare for more than say a year or two, in order to stay on it they would have to give up citizenship or voting rights.

At some point, an adult human needs to decide.. are they going to be a maker? Are they going to be proactive and help shape their countries path as it forges forward? Or are they going to sit on the sidelines mouth agape, like a loser louse. If they want to be a prole, an animal, someone that gets nursed out of a bottle, we perhaps should let them, but they must condemn themselves to the obscurity they deserve. Losers should not get to control the direction of this nation. Loser takers shouldn't be able to vote or have any say on anything. They are essentially children, incapable of being a self sufficient individual. I think they would be a fair compromise. They admit to their loser status, their status of someone to be stepped over. If they do that, they can have some of my money.
You will die penniless and alone in your own excrement.
 
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