Chomsky; Trump will collapse economy

He has been a professor at MIT for 62 years.
I imagine he knows a bit more than a telemarketer selling perfumes
Einstein was a patents clerk in Switzerland when he came up with his special theory of relativity, it's sobering to note that he probably wouldn't be given the time of day in today's world.

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Da Fvck? So you work on a boat, is that why you are so clueless about the econony?

Now he is floundering and trying to cod you, he needs to thrown back in the sea as he is a right pain in the bass.

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You do make me laugh. Prof. Richard Lindzen has been a professor of atmospheric physics at MIT for many years, published hundreds of papers yet you dismiss him out of hand. Same with Freeman Dyson at Princeton, who was a contemporary of Einstein and is arguably the smartest person alive. They are both dismissed airily by fools like you as contrarians or climate deniers.

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Do you anatta is smarter?
He does.
 
then he is wrong.

poor people dont claim a lot of deductions because they barely have anything to spend. If its a high standardized deduction they can claim more.

I don't recall exactly what he said, but I believe Warren said he would pay less, about 11 or 14% less than he paid last tax season..
 
I don't recall exactly what he said, but I believe Warren said he would pay less, about 11 or 14% less than he paid last tax season..

Poor people would pay 5-15% less. I dont see how warren is going to pay less.

1. Deductions are now capped at 100000 for single or 200000 for joint. A person of Warrens wealth cannot claim that much anymore.

2. Most of his income is stock. If he was using the carried interest loophole before to get charged capital gains it will now be classified as income tax.
 
Poor people would pay 5-15% less. I dont see how warren is going to pay less.

1. Deductions are now capped at 100000 for single or 200000 for joint. A person of Warrens wealth cannot claim that much anymore.

2. Most of his income is stock. If he was using the carried interest loophole before to get charged capital gains it will now be classified as income tax.

Well I would love to believe what your saying but I will stick w/ a couple of the richest guys on the planet...:dunno:


Warren Buffett and Bill Gates aren't buying into President Donald Trump's tax plan.In an interview with CNBC on Monday, both Gates and Buffett downplayed the benefits of Trump's proposed tax cut for businesses and said the promised higher growth from the cut was overplayed.
Trump, who released a one-page:rofl2: outline of the plan on April 26, wants to cut the federal corporate tax rate to 15% from 35% and has said doing so would create economic and business growth.
Buffett, however, was skeptical about the plan's effect on Berkshire Hathaway. He told CNBC’s Becky Quick he couldn’t think of a single Berkshire business in which the US tax rate put the business at a disadvantage compared with foreign companies. "For one thing," he said, "ours aren't as high as we think they are in many cases. They're not as low elsewhere."
Buffett is correct that many companies do not pay the headline tax rate. The statutory rate is 35%, but the rate after deductions and such, known as the effective rate, for companies in the S&P 500 is closer to 24%.
Buffett was also dismissive of the suggestion by the Trump administration that increased economic growth would help pay for the tax cuts and make up the loss in government revenue, a justification that comes from a method called dynamic scoring.
"Everybody that wants a cut in taxes can hire some academics and they look for dynamic scoring and they say the country will really be better off if I pay less tax," Buffett said. "I don't blame them — it's very understandable, so be very, very, very suspicious of dynamic scoring."
Gates said any tax cut was unlikely to benefit businesses in the tech sector but would most likely help shareholders.
"I don't think that the success of the technology sector will be improved by some tax change," Gates said. "The tech companies are not starving right now, and this only comes up when you have profits, and these companies have very high profits. It's not like we're going to be stronger in the tech sector by making owners of those stocks richer."
Trump's tax plan has already faced opposition from Democrats and drawn concern from some Republicans. Despite initial promises to get it done by August, the Trump administration is reportedly concerned the plan may not get through Congress until 2018


 

Well I would love to believe what your saying but I will stick w/ a couple of the richest guys on the planet...:dunno:


Warren Buffett and Bill Gates aren't buying into President Donald Trump's tax plan.In an interview with CNBC on Monday, both Gates and Buffett downplayed the benefits of Trump's proposed tax cut for businesses and said the promised higher growth from the cut was overplayed.
Trump, who released a one-page:rofl2: outline of the plan on April 26, wants to cut the federal corporate tax rate to 15% from 35% and has said doing so would create economic and business growth.
Buffett, however, was skeptical about the plan's effect on Berkshire Hathaway. He told CNBC’s Becky Quick he couldn’t think of a single Berkshire business in which the US tax rate put the business at a disadvantage compared with foreign companies. "For one thing," he said, "ours aren't as high as we think they are in many cases. They're not as low elsewhere."
Buffett is correct that many companies do not pay the headline tax rate. The statutory rate is 35%, but the rate after deductions and such, known as the effective rate, for companies in the S&P 500 is closer to 24%.
Buffett was also dismissive of the suggestion by the Trump administration that increased economic growth would help pay for the tax cuts and make up the loss in government revenue, a justification that comes from a method called dynamic scoring.
"Everybody that wants a cut in taxes can hire some academics and they look for dynamic scoring and they say the country will really be better off if I pay less tax," Buffett said. "I don't blame them — it's very understandable, so be very, very, very suspicious of dynamic scoring."
Gates said any tax cut was unlikely to benefit businesses in the tech sector but would most likely help shareholders.
"I don't think that the success of the technology sector will be improved by some tax change," Gates said. "The tech companies are not starving right now, and this only comes up when you have profits, and these companies have very high profits. It's not like we're going to be stronger in the tech sector by making owners of those stocks richer."
Trump's tax plan has already faced opposition from Democrats and drawn concern from some Republicans. Despite initial promises to get it done by August, the Trump administration is reportedly concerned the plan may not get through Congress until 2018



Did you actually read what you copy pasted? Or do you just worship it because it is from buffet? First of he said "For one thing," he said, "ours aren't as high as we think they are in many cases. They're not as low elsewhere."

He already acknowledges that our tax rate is not 35%. In your example it is 24%. I have seen GAO studies that place it at 14-16%. Then in the next sentence after you ADMIT THAT THE RATE IS NOT 35% you still term it as a tax decrease from 35 to 15.

Of course you also mention the book value of a company. Which assumes it pays the paper tax rate. Of course it will go up once you reduce the paper tax. The key is they were never paying 35% to begin with.

Which is it? Is it a 35-15 tax cut or do you agree with Buffet that it "is not as high as you think it is"

Lastly every point I wrote perviously was on your personal income taxes and you answer with an article about the corporate tax rate.

The way our current system is set up is that the companies that can afford the people who know the tax code can get these deductions (like buffet) while the smaller companies who dont have the same economies of scale have to pay closer to the statutory rate.

You know why your Gods buffet and gates are against this? It makes smaller companies more competetive with theirs.

Of course you dont actually bother to read anything and just copy and paste what they say.
 
So your hero Chompers says Trump will​ crash the economy yet Buffet has tripled his stake in Apple. How so, discuss?

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Buffett is in for the long haul, even if he won't be around to brag & boast about how rich he is like some ppl. As he has said, the economy will survive whoever is elected, even the rumpf...

I don't know the exact reasons Chomsky said what he said nor any time lines..

I do know that he believes that the GOP, if unchecked will do great damage to society & the environment..
 
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Did you actually read what you copy pasted? Or do you just worship it because it is from buffet? First of he said "For one thing," he said, "ours aren't as high as we think they are in many cases. They're not as low elsewhere."

He already acknowledges that our tax rate is not 35%. In your example it is 24%. I have seen GAO studies that place it at 14-16%. Then in the next sentence after you ADMIT THAT THE RATE IS NOT 35% you still term it as a tax decrease from 35 to 15.

Of course you also mention the book value of a company. Which assumes it pays the paper tax rate. Of course it will go up once you reduce the paper tax. The key is they were never paying 35% to begin with.

Which is it? Is it a 35-15 tax cut or do you agree with Buffet that it "is not as high as you think it is"

Lastly every point I wrote perviously was on your personal income taxes and you answer with an article about the corporate tax rate.

The way our current system is set up is that the companies that can afford the people who know the tax code can get these deductions (like buffet) while the smaller companies who dont have the same economies of scale have to pay closer to the statutory rate.

You know why your Gods buffet and gates are against this? It makes smaller companies more competetive with theirs.

Of course you dont actually bother to read anything and just copy and paste what they say.

Glad you caught that........ MAYBE THAT WAS THE REASON YOU SAW IT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED??? lol

The reason I responded w/ the corp rate is because of the deal they are getting, compared to the deal you & I are getting.........

We get a few crumbs, but they are taking the cake.........

If the economy does not grow as predicted I am hoping the few fiscal conservatives left in that party will speak out, hell, lash out @/about the massive loss of tax revenue....
 
Glad you caught that........ MAYBE THAT WAS THE REASON YOU SAW IT HIGHLIGHTED IN RED??? lol

The reason I responded w/ the corp rate is because of the deal they are getting, compared to the deal you & I are getting.........

We get a few crumbs, but they are taking the cake.........

If the economy does not grow as predicted I am hoping the few fiscal conservatives left in that party will speak out, hell, lash out @/about the massive loss of tax revenue....

but their not. Your own God buffet admits this. He already tells you to your face that the tax rate is not 35%. Then every other metric you use to show how big of a break corporations are getting is based on the corporations having to pay 35%.

On the corporate side Trumps tax plan levels the playing field for small and medium businesses that cant scale to benefit from the tax code and companies like those owned by buffet and gates.

On the personal side if you analyze it Trumps tax plan is so harsh on high earners the biggest danger is having them pull a gerard depardeu (however thats spelled) and give up citizenship. No carried interest loophole, capped deductions. Right now there doesnt seem to be an effective cap to the deductions you can claim they just get reduced.
 
but their not. Your own God buffet admits this. He already tells you to your face that the tax rate is not 35%. Then every other metric you use to show how big of a break corporations are getting is based on the corporations having to pay 35%.

On the corporate side Trumps tax plan levels the playing field for small and medium businesses that cant scale to benefit from the tax code and companies like those owned by buffet and gates.

On the personal side if you analyze it Trumps tax plan is so harsh on high earners the biggest danger is having them pull a gerard depardeu (however thats spelled) and give up citizenship. No carried interest loophole, capped deductions. Right now there doesnt seem to be an effective cap to the deductions you can claim they just get reduced.

My, you seem to know all about his one page tax manifesto.:rolleyes:

I highlighted it in fuckin red dude........ I agree, Duh!!!!!!

How harsh is it on Buffett if BRKa is getting a 29 billion boost?? That is just one company..
 
if there is a montrous correction,it's normal after the YUGE increase. But it's not going to happen.

This isn't all speculative gains like w/the housing market.
I like Chomsky for who he is, but he's not qualified on this

All the "qualified" people got it ass backwards wrong and had us invade Iraq. Chomsky got it right, and eloquently explained why.

He wrote THE BOOK on how we communicate (linguistics), and NEVER speaks on subjects he hasn't thoroughly researched. You should watch his video "Manufactured Dissent".
 
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